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xzeth
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Something unclear..

Post by xzeth » Fri May 16, 2008 9:11 pm

I am new here and i want to clear something up in my mind.. Will ReactOS just continue on making applications from windows compatible? or is it gonna be like what i am thinking about. Will it run windows and linux applications side by side ?

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Post by z180 » Fri May 16, 2008 9:15 pm

you cant run ELF binaries on ReactOS but it may be possible to use
KEOW in the future.

You can try the livecd,but you probably cant access
your data (driver bug)and usb is not working right.

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Post by xzeth » Fri May 16, 2008 9:17 pm

ahmm sorry.. could you explain what's ELF and KEOW?? :cry:

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Post by Z98 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:25 pm

The closest to making Linux app work is maybe a POSIX subsystem might be developed in the future, and that's a big maybe. It really isn't the objective of this project to be a universal operating system, nor do that many of us believe such a thing is possible. Others may take what we've done to try and create one, but that's up to them to accomplish.

ELF is the executable format on *nix. NT uses PE.

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Post by oiaohm » Sat May 17, 2008 12:11 am

Z98 is slightly wrong. ELF is the Sun designed binary format that most Unix's Linux and BSD use. Reactos does have a ELF loader. Only one major problem ELF permits internal layouts that do not suit NT designed kernel. So only ELF build to match NT requirements or by luck do can be loaded by the Reactos kernel.

One developer has already spent many months trying to make ELF work no way around the NT design limitations was found without breaking NT design. ELF format has been used in one of the ports I forget what one.

Of course the posix layor is 100 percent missing too. Basically if you want to do that you have to look at the other options unless some major break threw to the ELF issues is found. With the skill of the developer who was looking at the problem I don't think that will be any time soon.

http://Andlinux.org and http://openlina.org both using http://colinux.sf.net to allow linux to run inside windows.

Then you have http://kvm.sf.net that should in time allow reactos to run back inside Linux with controlled device access.

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Post by CedLFr » Wed May 21, 2008 9:19 am

Hi, I'm new here, it's my first post. But I folow reactos evolution for one year.
Concerning this topic, there is no need to make reactos compatible with linux binaries, indeed, ulteo did virtual desktop ->
http://www.ulteo.com/home/en/virtualdesktop
It's a linux system that integrates into windows. I assume that if it works on windows it will work on reactos someday :)
It uses a Linux kernel patch called "coLinux".

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Post by elhoir » Wed May 21, 2008 8:29 pm

an inconvenient.. it is not Open Source :twisted:

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Post by hefner » Wed May 21, 2008 10:59 pm

coLinux is OpenSource, remember the GPL , you cant change its license ...

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Post by SpoonmAn » Wed May 21, 2008 11:32 pm

ulteo is gpl´ed too
Source code: we're publishing our source code under the General Public License v2. Our public source-code BZR repository is available at: http://code.ulteo.com/bzr/
@CedLFr
thanx for pointing this out, i instantly remembered when i told a friend maybe 4 years back from now that soon companys will code their commercial software to run all on servers in the internet and have the customers pay monthley for access. adobe and microsoft showed us in the last one or two years that this was a good guess, but i did not realize that thsis also applyes for operating systems! i am totaly amazed...

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Post by oiaohm » Thu May 22, 2008 12:31 am

SpoonmAn. Most likely will happen to a point all applications being in web space not possible any time soon some need to be in laptops and phones when they don't have internet access.

Also commonly missed point is the open source programs also use the same model. Here is a server application now for X fee per month we will manage and provide the application for you.

Note commercial does not mean open or closed source. There are commercial in both.

http://www.open-xchange.com/
http://www.sugercrm.com/

The list goes on and on of open source products that use SaaS as a funding system. Note lot of open source guys were doing it already in 1996. As normal Adobe and Microsoft is late to the party.

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