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Blog: Tweaks and improvements

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by hbelusca » Mon May 05, 2014 9:49 pm

The Challenge:
Windows' explorer vs. explorer_new: Which is which, in the pictures? :D :D

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by gonzoMD » Mon May 05, 2014 11:30 pm

The one who mentioned themes was me. I found out that, if you change the directory on ReactOS, the window loses its theming until you click inside it again.
Gigaherz said that it's not a fault in browseui, but in uxtheme, and it wasn't there before the recent changes.

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by Murmur » Tue May 06, 2014 6:27 am

Pretty impressive! Great work

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by ReactFan » Tue May 06, 2014 10:06 am

Great job if this goes on it may live to see the final work at the end of the year :-)

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by Frontier » Tue May 06, 2014 11:04 am

You can look at it now on the shell experiments branch.

I think we'll be using explorer_new as the main shell pretty soon actually, the `sneak peak' has the address bar filled in, which is more than we can say about explorer_old. With the shell classes pretty functional and the start menu working, I'm optimistic that soon our shell will actually be good.

And things like this are the main reason the IGG campaign in so important, with Smiley's and Gigaherz's contributions, we're seeing massive progress on the shell, and without funds that wouldn't be happening any where nearly as quickly.

Once explorer_new is the main shell I'll think we'll see a lot more traction with getting devs working on it too (it's a good learning place for reactos coding), as currently, it's a lot like, yeah... don't go near that...

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by gonzoMD » Tue May 06, 2014 11:56 am

Frontier wrote:You can look at it now on the shell experiments branch.

I think we'll be using explorer_new as the main shell pretty soon actually, the `sneak peak' has the address bar filled in, which is more than we can say about explorer_old. With the shell classes pretty functional and the start menu working, I'm optimistic that soon our shell will actually be good.

And things like this are the main reason the IGG campaign in so important, with Smiley's and Gigaherz's contributions, we're seeing massive progress on the shell, and without funds that wouldn't be happening any where nearly as quickly.

Once explorer_new is the main shell I'll think we'll see a lot more traction with getting devs working on it too (it's a good learning place for reactos coding), as currently, it's a lot like, yeah... don't go near that...
What's missing: the task bar items. Gigaherz could need some help with ATL/OLE

If this is there, the new shell can be activated as default, it is already as good (even if slightly buggy) as the old one.

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by Frontier » Tue May 06, 2014 1:46 pm

True. Gigaherz, can you start a jira issue on that one with what you know about it so we can look into it?

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by gigaherz » Tue May 06, 2014 1:59 pm

There has been a JIRA issue related to that for a while already: https://jira.reactos.org/browse/CORE-7953

I just didn't link it to the EPIC... I'll do that.

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by PurpleGurl » Tue May 06, 2014 3:17 pm

hbelusca wrote:The Challenge:
Windows' explorer vs. explorer_new: Which is which, in the pictures? :D :D
The top is W2K3, the bottom is ROS, and I still notice 3 differences.

1. The address bar.
2. My Computer missing on lower right.
3. Different folder icon color.

However, things certainly look much closer. The heading icon and the rebar issue are no longer issues.

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by gigaherz » Tue May 06, 2014 4:10 pm

The "My Computer" thing is related to the Internet Security Zones thing of Internet Explorer, so it will most probably be missing for a long time. The addressbar is my next target (as soon as I recover from a ninja cold/flu I caught). Not sure what you mean different folder color, they look the same to me...

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by theuserbl » Tue May 06, 2014 7:54 pm

Frontier wrote:You can look at it now on the shell experiments branch.

I think we'll be using explorer_new as the main shell pretty soon actually,
Why is it only in the "shell experiments branch" ? I thoughted, that it have to do with ReactOS Community Edition, so that the new explorer will be published there first.

I see no other reason for this branch. (Ok, there can be the reason, that possibly the new explorer currently don't run on ReactOS, because some dlls or functions of system-dlls are still not implemented)

The current explorer is incomplete?
It is in an earlier state already there:
Download a nightly build (http://www.reactos.com/de/getbuilds) or ReactOS 0.3.16.
Start it. Start a cmd.exe-window. Run taskmgr.exe and kill the explorer.exe-process. start on the commandline (the cmd.exe-window) C:\ReactOS\explorer_new.exe.
Thats it.
But as I sayd: It is very incomplete. All the nice changes are not in there.

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by Z98 » Tue May 06, 2014 8:36 pm

1) The purpose of a branch is to do disruptive development that may need some time before it can be safely integrated into the mainline codebase. Since that is why branches exist, that is the only "reason" there needs to be.

2) Development on explorer_new and its supporting infrastructure started years ago. Development on community edition related things have not started since the funding period is still not over. The only mention made of explorer_new in the community edition was that the community edition would use it. It was never said that explorer_new would debut with community edition.

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by PurpleGurl » Wed May 07, 2014 12:26 am

gigaherz wrote:The "My Computer" thing is related to the Internet Security Zones thing of Internet Explorer, so it will most probably be missing for a long time. The addressbar is my next target (as soon as I recover from a ninja cold/flu I caught). Not sure what you mean different folder color, they look the same to me...
I thought the folder icons were lighter in color in ROS and richer in Windows. I just loaded the ColorPix utility and while it is inconclusive, they are more similar than I thought. I chalk the apparent differences up to viewing on an LED display. So graphics below your field of vision might actually appear lighter in color. Reversing the order of the images would probably have the reverse effect, with W2K3 appearing lighter. So there might not be differences at all. It is just hard to get a lock in on a gradient.

You can tell I do more graphics editing than a lot of people and that I used to do crafts. :-)

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Re: Blog: Tweaks and improvements

Post by rachid » Wed May 07, 2014 10:57 am

PurpleGurl wrote: I thought the folder icons were lighter in color in ROS and richer in Windows. I just loaded the ColorPix utility and while it is inconclusive, they are more similar than I thought. I chalk the apparent differences up to viewing on an LED display. So graphics below your field of vision might actually appear lighter in color. Reversing the order of the images would probably have the reverse effect, with W2K3 appearing lighter. So there might not be differences at all. It is just hard to get a lock in on a gradient.

You can tell I do more graphics editing than a lot of people and that I used to do crafts. :-)
Both explorers are using the same icons!! Windows ones.

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