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Post by hto » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:36 am

PeterK wrote:
hto wrote: You can replace reactos\blue.sys on BootCD with it and try to boot.
Whatfor is that ?
Can I try it with the actual SVN bootCD 25399 ?
Yes. It is normal driver with small change.

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Post by PeterK » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:49 am

hto wrote:There is another blue.sys: http://www.5748.nm.ru/iso/test/
Use for testing with ReactOS2.iso.7z.
I installed WinISO and put this blue.sys into the test-ISO.

On both PCs (AsRock-mainboard with AMD+1500 and old one, ALI biostar-mainboard with MMX 200) the letter "T" ends up in black screen, without "invalid sync" - OKAY !
(I first tried some other letters starting from "A", all give this result = black screen, synchronized)

I was able to also test the ISO on the slow PC:
FAST pressing the letter ("A" or so ..) and then "RETURN" (when "press any key to boot from CD .." appears). So I managed to test the ISO also on the slow PC ..

Slow PC: In the moment Your input "window" appears, the keyboard does not respond anymore, no input possible (another bug ..) .. too late ..

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Post by PeterK » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:30 am

... deleted accidenlty .. I'm sorry !



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.. On MMX200 / biostar mainboard:
************************
Screen gets black and "Welcome to ReactOS Setup" does NOT appear ..

On mainboard I440BX-SMC93X-2A69KN0AC (PII 400):
****************************************
.. the same

On mainboard with KT133 K7 (Duron 650):
*******************************
.. the same

On the last one, LED of HD-access stays ON at the end. (I didn't look at that on the other two "old" PCs)
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Post by hto » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:52 am

I first tried with actual - unmodified - release of bootCD-dbg 25399, just to be sure: still "invalid sync" (I think You would expect that .. ?)
There was no changes in blue.sys last time.
Then I tried this ISO with Your modified BLUE.SYS:
"Welcome to ReactOS Setup" - screen appears correctly - congratulations !
Patch -> Bugzilla already.
Screen gets black and "Welcome to ReactOS Setup" does NOT appear ..
This bug is more difficult, I think. There is no indication where something goes wrong.

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Post by PeterK » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:00 pm

hto wrote:There was no changes in blue.sys last time.
I did boot the unmodified ISO just to be absolutely sure that nothing has changed since failing ISO 24390 .. paranoid, I know .. :-)
hto wrote: Patch -> Bugzilla already.
Too few words .. what do You mean ?
hto wrote:
Screen gets black and "Welcome to ReactOS Setup" does NOT appear ..
This bug is more difficult, I think. There is no indication where something goes wrong.
Well, first thank You very much for working together !

But, whom can I ask ? My old bug in bugzilla #1742 ("Can't boot LiveCD, error 0x00000000") does not lead to anything as I mentioned "LiveCD". And LiveCD is already broken at the moment as far as I know. (I did never test the bootCD (last summer) because I thought, well if liveCD doesn't boot why should I try installation ??!)

But it looks to me like the failure of LiveCD - on my old PCs - is also that of BootCD (I don't know what all has changed in the source code since release 0.3.0 so it may have totally different reasons ..)

What do You think - shall I open a new bugzilla bug ? Perhaps there's someone doing the debug with me as You did here on blue.sys... ?

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Post by hto » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:33 pm

Too few words .. what do You mean ?
I mean patch to blue.sys already in bugzilla. Devs should commit or reject it.
Well, first thank You very much for working together !
Thank You for help.
My old bug in bugzilla #1742 ("Can't boot LiveCD, error 0x00000000") does not lead to anything as I mentioned "LiveCD".
I think that bug is obsolete. That bugcheck in IoCreateArcNames() do not exist now.
And LiveCD is already broken at the moment as far as I know. (I did never test the bootCD because I thought, well if liveCD doesn't boot why should I try installation ??!)
LiveCDs are broken now because OS tries to write modified registry back on CD. Installed OS can successfully write it on hard disk.
What do You think - shall I open a new bugzilla bug ?
Which one?
Perhaps there's someone doing the debug with me as You did here on blue.sys... ?
There's too much work and too few people... :-(

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Post by PeterK » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:37 pm

See last reply in
http://www.reactos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1953

GreatLord can't find Your attachment ..
hto wrote:
What do You think - shall I open a new bugzilla bug ?
Which one?
Well, the title of this thread is "ReactOS does not run on older computers"
and the last status was:
PeterK wrote:.. the actual SVN bootCD 25399 :
... (even with new blue.sys) ...
PeterK wrote:.. On MMX200 / biostar mainboard:
************************
Screen gets black and "Welcome to ReactOS Setup" does NOT appear ..

On mainboard I440BX-SMC93X-2A69KN0AC (PII 400):
****************************************
.. the same

On mainboard with KT133 K7 (Duron 650):
*******************************
.. the same

On the last one, LED of HD-access stays ON at the end. (I didn't look at that on the other two "old" PCs)
hto wrote: This bug is more difficult, I think. There is no indication where something goes wrong.
Looks like I should open a new bugzilla bug ?

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Post by hto » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:58 pm

PeterK wrote: Screen gets black and "Welcome to ReactOS Setup" does NOT appear ..
Bug should be reported to Bugzilla.

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Post by hto » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:53 am

Yet another blue.sys: http://www.5748.nm.ru/iso/test/
Use for testing with ReactOS2.iso.7z.

It should write a letter to the screen at each stage. Try to boot with letter "U" first.
Slow PC: In the moment Your input "window" appears, the keyboard does not respond anymore, no input possible (another bug ..) .. too late ..
You can also try to use new setupldr.sys from that place.

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Post by GreatLord » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:51 pm

hto
Thx u did found a mistake in the misc register for vga, I did ask drailx commit it when I saw the patch I did not have time today commit it. so dralix have commit it some hours ago.

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Post by dark » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:00 pm

good news: bootcd-25427-dbg will get to the second stage, however the progressbar on bootvid does not seem to work, and after a while it black screens. (P4, 767MB ram)

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Post by PeterK » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:25 pm

hto wrote:Yet another blue.sys: http://www.5748.nm.ru/iso/test/
Use for testing with ReactOS2.iso.7z.

It should write a letter to the screen at each stage. Try to boot with letter "U" first.
Well, something went wrong - I got again "invalid sync" with BLUE.SYS from 11.01.2007 ..

So I didn't try "new setupldr.sys" ...

*******************************

I tried BootCD 24530 and Your bugfix is ok.
Also on broken LiveCD 24530 the ReactOS Bitmap does appear correcty now ..
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Post by hto » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:06 pm

Sorry. Wrong file. Try again.

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Post by hto » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:35 am

however the progressbar on bootvid does not seem to work
As i heard, progressbar is intentionally disabled.
and after a while it black screens.
I have the same problem. http://www.reactos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1901

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Post by PeterK » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:22 am

hto wrote:I have the same problem. http://www.reactos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1901
Probably several bugs point in the same direction (but may not have the same reasons ..)

For example bug
http://www.reactos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1966
?
hto wrote:Sorry. Wrong file. Try again.
I will test Your SYS drivers in about 10 hours when I'm back home.

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