ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

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ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by elhoir » Tue May 27, 2008 6:31 pm

Would it be possible? or does it become a loss of compatibility?

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by FlyingIsFun1217 » Tue May 27, 2008 10:53 pm

Just depends on whether or not it (ROS) has the drivers to read it's own files from those formatted partitions.

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by GreyGhost » Wed May 28, 2008 6:50 am

Last i checked we have Ext2 driver in trunk(for ages) and it itself should work ..
But a few other things stop it from working .. thats why we had a cc rewrite branch .. which never got done .. but temporarily plans have changed for NoCC ..
And probability of Ext2/3 is going to be higher than NTFS any given time .. (IMO NTFS seems really unlikely as default partition type for ROS in near future atleast)
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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by fred02 » Sat May 31, 2008 10:40 pm

elhoir wrote:Would it be possible? or does it become a loss of compatibility?
Considering that one can't have Windows on Ext2, it seems quite a looooong shoot.

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by elhoir » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:38 pm

well, one can not have it because Microsoft has not given ext2/3 support to Windows, but i think it is technically possible.... or not?

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by fred02 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:43 pm

elhoir wrote:well, one can not have it because Microsoft has not given ext2/3 support to Windows, but i think it is technically possible.... or not?
Probably it is, may be using this driver and custom build (it is not GPL) http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#not_sup_feat but it depends in the state of implementation of the IFS in RoS (not much for the moment as I understand)

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by EmuandCo » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:49 pm

As soon as the ReactOS CC works or got fully removed (Our CC is quite bad) we can use our ext2 drier in the tree. Then we will give the user the option to use FAT or ext2 to install and boot ROS from. The setings to format a HDD Partition to EXT2 are already included in our 1st stage setup. We only need to enable it.
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ReactOS is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by elhoir » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:55 pm

EmuandCo wrote: The setings to format a HDD Partition to EXT2 are already included in our 1st stage setup
And the ability to manage different partitions? :)

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by Z98 » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:00 pm

That is dependent on the storage stack.

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by fred02 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:24 am

EmuandCo wrote:Then we will give the user the option to use FAT or ext2 to install and boot ROS from. The setings to format a HDD Partition to EXT2 are already included in our 1st stage setup. We only need to enable it.
:shock: Well, that sound pretty darn promising. Will be awaiting even more eagerly the next release(s)

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by z180 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:07 pm

It would be very nice to enhance the partitioning capabilties first.
I needed to simulate a QEMU disk image by zeroing out my HDD.
ReactOS do not have problems if your disk is zeroed.
ReactOS should partitions edit as simple as gparted on linux.
It will be very long to NTFS support.
EXT2/3/4 has very good things but the ReactOS driver seems
as old as the NTFS driver or the minix-fs driver or the TCP/IP stack.
The devs should port a new to support EXT3 journals and apply the read write compression patch.
With the compressed file attribute you could have compression like in NTFS.

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by Haos » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:03 pm

The devs should port a new to support EXT3
Port? From where?

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by z180 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:30 pm

Haos wrote a question:
port from where?

I answer!:
EXT3 should be ported more or less from linux,because linux supports it as best(journalling)
and it is GPL and written in C.This would be very good to have journalling,because ReactOS is in alpha
and the bluescreen our friend lurks at the next kernel mode exeption.
I can not port an entire filesystem from ros to linux,but 3 filesystems (NTFS,MINIX,EXT2)contain
linux code and this is not yet mentioned at 2nd stage setup(only xbox-linux).

Write your journal!

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by Z98 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:17 pm

The last attempt to port something from Linux took three years and was ultimately abandoned. This was an attempt by Fireball himself, I might add. Porting from Linux is about as hard as writing it from scratch, if not more because of how different the respective architectures are.

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Re: ReactOS on an Ext2/3 partition (instead of NTFS)

Post by FlyingIsFun1217 » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:48 am

Z98 wrote:Porting from Linux is about as hard as writing it from scratch, if not more because of how different the respective architectures are.
I'll grant that it's nothing the same, but doesn't looking at linux drivers (for example) give you an idea of how the hardware works provided you know how linux drivers are written?

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