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Re: Mono!

Post by David » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:33 pm

SdC wrote:-The fact that it locks your applications to a single platform.
Perhaps should rOS not support DX due to that DX is not cross platform? On rOS core level, it's designed to run applications explicitly made for windows operating systems - bottom down if you cant run .NET applications in rOS, rOS in the end will never truly become a viable alternative to traditional windows systems due to the growing base of applications developed requiring the .NET platform.

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Post by GreatLord » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:26 pm

u need sepreate VB and VB.NET runtime issue

dot net will be supported in reactos with dotgnu or go-mono
when we will ship with one of them I do not known. we trust in 3d party here.

the old VB (not dot net VB) need so call runtime
vbrun100.dll (VB 1.x)
vbrun200.dll (VB 2.x)
vbrun300.dll (VB 3.x)
vbrun400.dll (VB 4.x)
vbrun500.dll (VB 5.x)
vbrun600.dll (VB 6.x)

And normal windows does not include thise files either it comes
with the program installer of the VB apps. and we do not have any
plans to make vbrunX00.dll files in ReactOS you need trust the installer
for the apps ship with these dll. And windows need trust the apps ship
with these dll. thuse dll are not install to system32 they are install to
each program folder.

DirectX is another story it is part of whole windows. noting u can cut off.

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Post by Ensign Joe » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:36 pm

GreatLord wrote:vbrun500.dll (VB 5.x)
vbrun600.dll (VB 6.x)
Aren't those files called msvbvm50.dll and msvbvm60.dll?
Every app that needs the VB claims it needs those files not vbrun500.dll ;)

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Post by TiKu » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:39 pm

GreatLord wrote:vbrun500.dll (VB 5.x)
vbrun600.dll (VB 6.x)
At least for VB5 and VB6 those files are called MSVBVM50.dll and MSVBVM60.dll.
GreatLord wrote:And normal windows does not include thise files either it comes with the program installer of the VB apps.
Windows XP, 2003 and Vista come with the VB6 runtime libraries. I'm not sure about Windows 2000.

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Post by FlyingIsFun1217 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:10 am

Sand wrote:Is it free as in freedom?
Just about nothing from Microsoft is free (as in freedom). They've created an OS license, but I'm not even quite sure they've actually used it on anything yet...

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Post by TiKu » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:14 am

There's WiX and there's WTL - two Microsoft projects that are free enough to be hosted on SourceForge.net. ;)

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Post by FlyingIsFun1217 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:16 pm

TiKu wrote:There's WiX and there's WTL - two Microsoft projects that are free enough to be hosted on SourceForge.net. ;)
Out of how many?

Trying not to get argue-y :)
Back on topic: No, it's not free as in speech or whatever.

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Post by etko » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:27 pm

SdC wrote:
FreeBASIC is NOT PART based on PowerBasic and it newer was. It is native x86 command line compiler written in FreeBASIC, which aims to emulate and extend Microsoft QuickBASIC, with 99% compatibility in special qb mode.


FreeBASIC only has compatibility mode for QB emulation. In its native mode it has completely different syntax and many features such as pointers and pointer arithmetics as well as C-like syntax features that do not exist (or made in completely different way) in Microsoft's line of Basic interpreters.
Aren't you repeating me?

David wrote: Any particular reason as to why one should avoid .net?
Bloated, everybody can download mono later, same reason why not to bundle java, quake 3 virtual machine or any other bytecode interpreted ugliness for that matter.

I want 95 MB WinNT4 like install composed of apps using pure Win32 API or very very thin layer. Fast as hell.

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Post by SdC » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:11 pm

[quote="etko"]
Aren't you repeating me?

[quote]
I think you're getting your quotes mixed up, I never said THAT.

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Post by David » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:55 pm

etko wrote:Bloated, everybody can download mono later
Of course one would not bundle with large bloated applications - but the question were wether or not you in the end will be able to run it - thus applications dependent on it. I am satisfied with the answer that .NET will be avaiable - the practical implementation of it is "another beer" sort of speek.

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Post by etko » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:42 am

No that it could change anything, but I express my opinion: I am against any implicit ".NET" bundle.

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Re: Visual Basic

Post by nitrofurano » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:58 pm

Try Python - the syntax is very close to Basic, and it has a good peformance, and has good extensibility as well
As well, Python should come defaultly from ReactOS, as does mostly from Linux distros, and even MacOS-X!

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Re: Visual Basic

Post by GoBusto » Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:02 pm

nitrofurano wrote:Python should come defaultly from ReactOS, as does mostly from Linux distros, and even MacOS-X!
Please refer to this post.

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Re: Visual Basic

Post by Haos » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:17 pm

Excuse me, but what do you mean by "come defaultly from ReactOS"?

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Re: Visual Basic

Post by GoBusto » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:26 pm

Haos wrote:Excuse me, but what do you mean by "come defaultly from ReactOS"?
I think he means "ships as part of a default install," as it does with some other operating systems.

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