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Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:01 pm
by sabiki
Japanese texts are garbled in ReactOS. So I think we should add a Japanese font.
I think the VLGothic font(http://dicey.org/vlgothic/) is the most suitable to add.
This font is included in famous open source Operating Systems.(e.g. Ubuntu,Fedora and FreeBSD...)
I hope developer adds the font to ReactOS.

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:15 pm
by GoBusto
ReactOS also lacks a Japanese IME if I recall correctly. I guess that this is because the only developer who actually understands the language (as far as I know) is Elledan and she is busy doing USB stuff right now.

Japanese input support is great in Windows and MacOSX but generally sucks quite a lot on Linux systems (Kitsune helps a bit, but can be somewhat buggy). If ReactOS supports alternative input methods as well as Windows does, I'll be happy.

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:46 pm
by hto
Japanese fonts tends to be large, but perhaps no very many people will use them. It would be probably better if users who need them install them themselves.

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:56 pm
by Elledan
Japanese fonts are fairly large, yeah. The really big fonts are unicode fonts, however :) Especially after you have included all the chinese and simplified chinese characters.

AFAIK we do indeed not have an IME yet. I'd be interested in learning a bit more about what'd be involved in implementing it, if only because it's a nice break from the low-level stuff I'm doing ATM :P

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:33 pm
by Lone_Rifle
since the devs are busy with everything else within ROS (yourself included Elledan), would it be a better idea if the IME (or for that matter any other projects that can stand alone, such as gyROS' paint replacement, or the hypothetical mshtml wrapper library going on in another thread) were forked off as a separate project and integrated into ROS on a regular basis instead?

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:38 am
by Elledan
If it's completely stand-alone then we could have a separate project for ReactOS 'Apps & Extensions' or such, yeah. Having a separate SF.net project for each app would be a tad messy, though. I would suggest keeping it more or less combined within the same framework at least (web, SVN and other servers and mailing lists, &c).

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:42 pm
by Lone_Rifle
IMO, if we were to take the "standalone apps and drop-in libs should be separate from the core OS" route, it would probably be better if each application had its own SVN repository, since we could avoid possible accidents resulting from unintentional lapses in SVN committing discipline. The problem is that iirc SF.net does not have the notion of metaprojects, where one can group several projects under one... banner. From the perspective of viewing the projects the chaos of having one project per app can be managed by presenting one central portal. Which could probably be done with a single SF.net project =)

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:36 pm
by GoBusto
Can the NT input method stuff be truly separated from NT itself, though? One would presume that it'd be fairly well integrated, but then again One has not gone off and done any research on this subject yet.

If it is not possible to do the work in the main tree but it's also too tightly connected to other bits of the OS to work alone then perhaps simply creating a new branch would be best.

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:57 pm
by hto
Can the NT input method stuff be truly separated from NT itself, though? One would presume that it'd be fairly well integrated, but then again One has not gone off and done any research on this subject yet.
One could develop IME on Windows in the meantime, until ReactOS will not be able to run it.

There are already rosapps and other branches exist in ReactOS repository.

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:03 pm
by fred02
GoBusto wrote:Can the NT input method stuff be truly separated from NT itself, though? One would presume that it'd be fairly well integrated, but then again One has not gone off and done any research on this subject yet.
I'm not so sure of that. w2k and up had a MUI packages, so a wild guess would be that ROS could/should have the same, IMHO, but better wait for one of the developers to answer.

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:54 pm
by be59
I think, the user should choise, what he wants to install.

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:30 pm
by hto
Currently there is no choice — all existing translations are built into EXEs, no separate packages.

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:46 pm
by be59
That is not good.
I think, we can use GNU Gettext or something like this.

VL Gothic

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:34 pm
by hto

Re: Why don't we add a Japanese font to ReactOS?

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:57 am
by sabiki
I created a patch.
But come to think about it,Japanese fonts are too large.