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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Blackcrack » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:01 am

hy,

you know my position, the point it is, it is dont support
of reacos and dont under the auspices of Ros and this is a point too, you can say, take a look,
all drivers and all open source-drivers be certificate of Drivergroup of Reactos (DOR (not Door*s*)),
this group, which also produces the operating system, so they can trust us even more ..
it is about trust and give trust and this is important , look to Microsoft, if make a System
of micro-soft why not make like MS ... and therefore, why should not Reactos
a little influence to build and promote cooperation, which is important for
future periods. imho...
It is a must to build a realy good and powerful Systemgroup and this includes driver .....
i cant say it not ever enough, it is a must be to build now groups how be after the
stronger structure and form, it's just not enough, only one operating system to
build to continue to grow we must encourage it, the around also can form groups,
and may be .. this is important to the core of the whole continues to solidify!
i hope it can read, it's a half/half of translater and my "suggest english" *smiile*
Therefor it's a must to start by side a Driver Database and call Manufacturers
who whant be free... it's need only a lil' (big) server and 3-6 Terrabyte Harddisk's
and a Page like Kde-look but that just built up as drivers - Database :mrgreen:
and then I will not know how much money is saved since then, other then the
hardware manufacturer for these drivers directly responsible .. but the whole
is not two or five corners and it is more honest and directly to endusers / admin ...

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Haos » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:46 pm

it's need only a lil' (big) server and 3-6 Terrabyte Harddisk's
"only"... n/c

Another one of your posts with "do this and that, have no idea how". Pointless.

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Blackcrack » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:30 pm

Hy,

Haos, only... Terrabyte harddisk cost only 114 €ros by Arlt.com in Germany
i had buy one at last and have it per usb-externharddiskcase at an pci-usb 2.0
five port controler, who be 4 places free at moment for more harddisk Dude ... but,
i shold buy a Mainboard with cpu and Ram (computer-upgrate) with 60 €uros
ant i think about if i buy a Board and call come KDE-Developers to help
start some Driver-Libary for Reactos Dude .. oky, if have anyone the possible
to have a Factory at hand who can sponsor some harddisk or maby a Upgrate
for my Blackysgate.dyndns.org so can i make with a 16Mbit line a Driver
Database for Reactos.. Oky Dude and i have "only" a one Terrabyte Harddisk :
Image

I find it a pity that you do not have such ideas and can only Maeck Haos *s*
and now, back to Topic please, you have enough posts :mrgreen:

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Z98 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:34 am

I find it somewhat surprising how little you underestimate the hardware needs are. Just look at the infrastructure MS has in place, its whole data centers, along with the huge amount of bandwidth they have to commit. These costs run on the order of millions of dollars, considering they're essentially providing support for the majority of the computing world. A terabyte? That's not going to be enough in a long shot. We'd basically need our own data center, and this is ignoring the manpower we'd need to vet such drivers.

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Blackcrack » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:53 am

Hy Z98,

and this manpower and data centers, we must build together, with the company together, as they so afterwards also benefit. That's why you have to look at that perhaps call around. A product is on the way and not just for the privatman, but also for companies. This then Reactos without licens fees can use and the proper way into the lead Reactos needs help. And that demand must be signed by Headquarters of Reactos, an normalouser can forget it. ... imho...

do not underestimate the power of a single computing today,
deliver a leading amigabox (BBS) for 8 or maby 10 users
simultaneously and now we have dual core and fad bandwide :mrgreen:

the privatman can provide plases of some homepages ... it dont need realy a
serverfarm to provide one small driverlibary, it mus have the place for it,
oky and maby the manpower to administration some files
(who come from the factorys and shold adminstrate from the faktorys )
But therefor mus make a first step ! And this mus start the root of Reactos !
Call Factorys and maby some Providers if whant help to start provide a
Open Source Ordering System like NT and who it is later for free,
but therefor must must be infrastrucktur, it's not only programming and call
in the irc, it's more...
Reactos is now at a level with the version 0.3.8 .. 9 the leaves soon, the Alfastadium
and travle to beta ... and this is imho this time to be the best time to start and call
the help on bigger "brothers" like Factorys to support reactos ... a buildplan is
here in the had of developers or maby on the Adminside of this forum or how ever ;)
And now must we must build a plan, like a driver Center must look for and what
help you need from the company, but it's also a lot of reasons provide the support
to make it worth as such no additional cost, such as no buy single licenses or other ....
only support a common server where the public also benefited the company which
is supported on a highlighted supporterpage, of course will also be deductible and a large advertising means that if for example the logo on the support site finds space in a
maximum of 128x128 , 100x50 or 200x80 as banner ... or some as a as a community which supports community. And hence the customer who is courted to buy your product, if it sees that an open source system supportet by the Company longtime then a support project for the customer. This is a very good advertisement for the company because the customer sees
that he disclosed the company and certainly can not and must trust and an art of club, so combination of the companies directly and indireckt supportet will.

But, it mus come from the Root of reactos the call of help to the Manufacturer
or some Factory's where after a benefit that would drag, but now the whole help to build!
I can only arouse.
And imho, at first not need a big fad data center, to develope to build a data
center connection. But it need help if we are would like to begin to stand for
the first time, but it must be safe, that is not dependent!
Dares to call the Factorys, I can only give the impetus(ger:Anstoß/impulse).

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by forart » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:24 am

You'll need a HWid database to associate a driver to a specific device, clearly.

Again, an automated floppy/USB key system information report tool (something similar to HWiNFO that saves on XML file, for example) would be extremely useful (not only for ROS), IMHO.
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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Blackcrack » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:34 pm

forart wrote:You'll need a HWid database to associate a driver to a specific device, clearly.

Again, an automated floppy/USB key system information report tool (something similar to HWiNFO that saves on XML file, for example) would be extremely useful (not only for ROS), IMHO.
useful, jupp, but more as hwinfo, a automation to send call's to a server who get the drivers...
like by Windows, plug a new hardware, buut up and the automatic checks some hardware,
know it and send call to.. maby humm.. https://ros-hwdriver.org/driverconnect,
send the hw-informations over the hardware and get the driverpackage for it,
like cab, zip or other compressed package to install the or a tunneling-connection with a
spezific protokoll.. like roshw://ros-hwdriver.org/driverconnect it may install automatically
go... The User and admin dont mus search for spezific driver for this hardware.. and the
admin in the Factory same.. more as 100 Computers new hardware... maby a new Graficard..
or faster mainboard, fresch installation of the computer.. and it mus only be on line at Internet and the networdriver mus installed be so can automatical get the hardwaredrivers...
(and the compatieble networkdrivers be real not a big thing..) the rest of it can stream
over i-net 8) direcktly from a ROS-HW-driverserver, supported of fractory who be
manufactured by self hardware.. and the ROS-HW-driverserver shold be a neutral
ground *s* like a church*s* .... the think behind is, if produce nvidia,ati, intel, via, elsa,
SIS and how named of it, some hardware not anymore so be the drivers ever at the ROS-HW-driverserver... a Driverserver who can store for the next 100 Jears the drivers ;)
An automatic driversupporter for Reactos.. (maby other NT-System's too) already supportet of the manufacturer

maby whant REALiX Corp. supporting it ? it's the change for some one..
maby the client as a addon... or so.. but any Hardware have a chip on it
who have a ManufacturerID and produktid .. so i know... it is not need to have
a hwinfo, it's only send this id's to the server and this server make a pack for this
Computer for autoinstallpack and send this pack to the ip if the computer...
later can use this pack for the next installation if burning this driverpack on cd ;)
The advantage of Reactos is that open source is Reactos directly and without looking too long demand for the latest resources. I think that is clear to us all. and why not, play with "Plug&Play" :mrgreen:

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Z98 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:32 am

I have yet to actually see why any of this would actually be necessary. MS already vets drivers for quality purposes, and this will actually become mandatory for x64 systems. HW manufacturers also host the drivers themselves on their own sites. So why do we need to provide a third mirror? The convenience argument doesn't hold, since if you actually know enough to be installing drivers, you will generally know where to find them. Even if said company doesn't exist anymore, there are plenty of other sites out there dedicated to hosting such drivers. And if you still can't find it, well, why exactly should we be expected to have it? And if you know enough to be installing OSes, then you really should be knowing what you're doing and how to find drivers.

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Blackcrack » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:33 am

Hy Z98, Image
You do not believe that Microsoft Image agrees that Reactos applies to drivers from Microsoft. Microsoft is in no case allow. Microsoft want none of the appropriate and will do everything that Reactos their principal makes brocken.

From what you dream at night...Image Image

That's why a neutral server where all really have access not only Microsoft systems
and supported of Reactos and factory to have a neutral resource bitween
microsoft, Reactos and the Hardwaremanufacturer.

and to have a central point who bundled all hardwaredriver...
and the endusers dont mus seach for old drivers and new one's.

"there are plenty of other sites out there dedicated to hosting such drivers."
it's korreckt, but it is easyerly to have a allroundpage to search who know
where can be the last resources of the last 100 Jears and have a good
feeling to be honor and free, not how some driverpages who cost
some many munny and must be a menber to become drivers :\
like some commerzials Driverpages where the normal User exploits.. :evil:


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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by FlyingIsFun1217 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:37 am

Wow. I always skipped over your posts because of the grammar errors, but those gaudy smilies... those really touched me...

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Blackcrack » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:26 am

FlyingIsFun1217 wrote:Wow. I always skipped over your posts because of the grammar errors, but those gaudy smilies... those really touched me...
FlyingIsFun1217
Hy FlyingIsFun1217,

spezial for you sweathart : *waaaaahhhh* and *big hug*
*drinking beer*

*danceing*
finally understands me something

(it is clear that I unfortunately no english can be really good, but I just missing the englishtraining in live in my little box of what I call home in Germany but you speak realy nice about it :D thy! )

best Regards, you Hero *flyisfunhero*
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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by coldReactive » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:40 pm

SmileyCentral is run by a spyware organization you know.

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by FlyingIsFun1217 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:45 pm

Thanks for keeping a smile(y) on my face, Blackcrack ;)

Although the love thing is a little creepy...

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by preston » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:38 pm

Blackcrack wrote:
FlyingIsFun1217 wrote:Wow. I always skipped over your posts because of the grammar errors, but those gaudy smilies... those really touched me...
FlyingIsFun1217
Hy FlyingIsFun1217,

spezial for you sweathart :
finally understands me something

(it is clear that I unfortunately no english can be really good, but I just missing the englishtraining in live in my little box of what I call home in Germany but you speak realy nice about it :D thy! )

best Regards, you Hero
Blacky
ok sweetheart,
a) stop using those annoying animated gifs
b) stop spamming the forum with offtopic posts
c) improve your english so at least someone can understand you or leave the english part of the forum alone

failing to comply with a), b) and c) will result in a ban. this forum is not a playground for kids (or at least shouldn't be).

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Re: Reactos Cerficated Driver Database of Manufacturer

Post by Blackcrack » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:18 pm

Hy, *ant swing around in eight*
Ijeru, it's oky, was not more as fun oky :D and.. it's hosted by my, this pictures Dude.. no spy, no anything ...
(cant edit the url's to see who it's hosted be %) )

FlyingIsFun1217, uuhhhh...... *verybiggrin* funny :mrgreen:
and preston, i know, Preston Pigglesworth is you Hero, but.. humm.. i have hungry *lol*
Oky Dudes, it's totaly offtopic, i know, but a lil' fun in live , it's a must be ! imho :)
now back to topic please ;)

best Regards
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