Re: [IDEA] Download! -er the ros-Downloader
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:59 pm
Right now the answer seems to be "no the official build won't include that" - but there is no emphasis on the idea that if someone wants to preinstall something on an iso of ROS, they really can.
If I were doing the dev work, I would look for an out to say "thanks but that's not my department, call the operator". My point is, instead of the typical debate and explanations about keeping things minimal, the standard response can be just "there is a place for those ideas, don't forget to read the sticky". Users will still put their junk all over the place, but this gives:
1) a standard, simple response
2) hopefully some clarity around what will be in the basic, official build vs. a distro
3) a single location for suggestions, which might be helpful if someone actually wants to make a distro
4) consistent info in the sticky: these are just ideas, won't be in the official build, and if you want to see it happen do it yourself - even a "howto" maybe for adding binaries and registrations to the setup scripts
It gives the forum moderators a way to say "no sorry no votes or arguing or all this nonsense, post your idea over here and this thread is closed thanks", but more politely. Or "that's all fine and dandy, but we're doing work here so if you don't mind....". Or even better "I guess you should install that app, test it thoroughly, and report bugs with good debug logs because right now it probably doesn't even work yet so be a peach and let us know would ya kthx".
You can even call it the "You can be your own OEM and pre-install all of the adware, trial versions, desktop clutter and unnecessary startup items you want" forum to get your point across
Regardless, it's not too early to think about pulling this stuff together so that a motivated user can make a decent, well-received distro by the time .40 hits - Windows distros haven't really been tried before and it will need some tweaking, as well as selecting the right things to install. And all in a place you can choose to ignore if you want, rather than mixed in with everything. Or at least get the idea out there "You know, you can do this yourself if you really want to"
If I were doing the dev work, I would look for an out to say "thanks but that's not my department, call the operator". My point is, instead of the typical debate and explanations about keeping things minimal, the standard response can be just "there is a place for those ideas, don't forget to read the sticky". Users will still put their junk all over the place, but this gives:
1) a standard, simple response
2) hopefully some clarity around what will be in the basic, official build vs. a distro
3) a single location for suggestions, which might be helpful if someone actually wants to make a distro
4) consistent info in the sticky: these are just ideas, won't be in the official build, and if you want to see it happen do it yourself - even a "howto" maybe for adding binaries and registrations to the setup scripts
It gives the forum moderators a way to say "no sorry no votes or arguing or all this nonsense, post your idea over here and this thread is closed thanks", but more politely. Or "that's all fine and dandy, but we're doing work here so if you don't mind....". Or even better "I guess you should install that app, test it thoroughly, and report bugs with good debug logs because right now it probably doesn't even work yet so be a peach and let us know would ya kthx".
You can even call it the "You can be your own OEM and pre-install all of the adware, trial versions, desktop clutter and unnecessary startup items you want" forum to get your point across
