plans for dial up?

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slyi
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plans for dial up?

Post by slyi »

Hi all,
Does anyone know what is needed to enable dial up support in reactos?
I see no ppp or slip section in the wiki :-(
Is there any plans moving forward to support ppp for 1.0.
Looking on the web about ppp in windows it doesnt seem that far out of reach.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau ... dowsce.asp
(also section diff between xp and ce ppp)

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/fm. ... irp+cygwin

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/com ... d3a41ec283

Does anyone know if there is any basic piece of OS missing that would halt the developement of this eg: NDIS, serial port driver etc...

BTW: ive no programing exp but i could try to help in the doc of this.

slyi
arty
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what's needed for reactos dialup

Post by arty »

As I understand things, this is what we'll need:

1) Small implementation of ndiswan
2) Serial port driver
3) PPP driver for ndiswan
4) Support for non-ethernet medium in tcpip
5) Login applet
6) Enough tapi to make the login applet go
slyi
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Post by slyi »

Hi arty,
Thanks for the info, i had thought item 2 is already complete
http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/ros ... edHardware

BTW: Is the login applet/tapi, the bits that allows HyperTerminal to talk to your modem eg: http://help.expedient.com/dialup/hyperterminal.shtml

I'll update the dial up wiki section, when the wiki migration is complete.
http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?dialup

Thanks

slyi
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Post by frik85 »

slyi wrote:I'll update the dial up wiki section, when the wiki migration is complete.
http://mok.lvcm.com/cgi-bin/reactos/roswiki?dialup
:arrow: http://reactos.com/wiki/index.php/Dialup
Bond007s
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PPP is not going away in 5 years.

Post by Bond007s »

Almost all routers still use PPP, using console cable from the Serial link to the Console Port. This is almost all Routers so PPP is far from leaving. Moed Dial Up is on the Down end for the Internet, but many companies use Dial up for many purposes to connect to company sites, ex users connecting in case of an emergency from Home. I just thought it wise to specify on this...
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Post by nothin2g »

Almost EVERYBODY uses dialup in germany (for broadband, too).
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Wierd
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"Dialup Adaptor"

Post by Wierd »

The windows TCP/IP stack doesnt discern the difference between dialup and ethernet, because dialup uses an NDIS wrapper driver, called "Dialup Adaptor" for dialup connections.

Basically, you need:

1)Serial port driver
2)Tapi support
3)PPP driver
4)DialupAdaptor clone
5)TCP/IP
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Post by Dr. Fred »

nothin2g wrote:Almost EVERYBODY uses dialup in germany (for broadband, too).
Not me. I use a router and ALL people I know that have DSL, too.
Where do you want ReactOS to go today ?
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Post by nothin2g »

I don't think avarage users have a router at home.
And doesn't a router use dialup for T-DSL, too? ;)
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arty
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The serial driver

Post by arty »

ReactOS has serial support in lots of places, but each implements its own mini serial driver. Our serial.sys does a couple of checks, but never creates the serial port device object nor handles any ioctls.

If you just want PPPOE, then a serial driver is not a prerequisite for PPP, but I suppose that we'll want our PPP to support both dialup and PPPOE.
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