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0.4.0 goals

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:21 am
by digiboy
How does everyone feel about the goals in 0.4.0?

IMHO I think that some of them could wait later, and focus on more important features.

DHCP Server -> Easily use 3rd party for now
Remote Desktop -> 3rd party (VNC)
Telnet Server -> 3rd party (cygwin/ssh)

I think cloning core features would be more important such as SMB, NTFS, WDM. Then we could dual boot on real hardware and get things rolling.

Any opinions?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:23 am
by Floyd
i'd really rather not marry cygwin to reactos. it just seems messy to me.
:-/

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:17 am
by oiaohm
We always have http://www.kpym.com/ for ssh. At least that is something not requiring cygwin to work.

Re: 0.4.0 goals

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:27 pm
by Jaix
digiboy wrote:How does everyone feel about the goals in 0.4.0?

IMHO I think that some of them could wait later, and focus on more important features.

DHCP Server -> Easily use 3rd party for now
Remote Desktop -> 3rd party (VNC)
Telnet Server -> 3rd party (cygwin/ssh)

I think cloning core features would be more important such as SMB, NTFS, WDM. Then we could dual boot on real hardware and get things rolling.

Any opinions?
DHCP server will be included in the future.
VNC -Client is already working, just install UltraVNC, server will work in time, we need people who wants to debug and return info to the devs. We have a RDP-client on it's way, (probably one or two monts away).
Telnet-server will also be included in the furure.

All these are important stuff and will come and probably sooner then later.

How about SAMBA-client & server, Clipboard, Printing-system, local security, login, directx, not to mention stability and compatibility.

Re: 0.4.0 goals

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
by frik85
Jaix wrote:How about SAMBA-client & server, Clipboard, Printing-system, local security, login, directx, not to mention stability and compatibility.
Samba-TNG client, clipboard, gina logon and directx (draw and later d3d) are work in progress and will come in near future too.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:18 pm
by Matthias
I'd like better compatibility with Qemu. tcpip.sys keeps crashing after a very short time when running in qemu, but i don't know if this is a bug in the tcp/ip stack or in the LAN driver. I don't think it's a problem with qemu, because debian sid runs fine in Qemu for hours.
Surprisingly, i can't get ReactOS to work in VMware on Linux. The installation works fine but it it'll crash with a bluescreen when trying to run it. It works with VMware on Windows though, and it's surprisingly stable :o)

Re: 0.4.0 goals

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:45 am
by digiboy
Jaix wrote: DHCP server will be included in the future.
VNC -Client is already working, just install UltraVNC, server will work in time, we need people who wants to debug and return info to the devs. We have a RDP-client on it's way, (probably one or two monts away).
Telnet-server will also be included in the furure.

All these are important stuff and will come and probably sooner then later.

How about SAMBA-client & server, Clipboard, Printing-system, local security, login, directx, not to mention stability and compatibility.
That all sounds good to me :D

Just wanted to make sure priorities are where the majority would like them.

But then again, with many developers working I guess it really doesn't matter. Just plug stuff into the main trunk once it's working.

Re: 0.4.0 goals

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:07 pm
by Jaix
frik85 wrote:
Jaix wrote:How about SAMBA-client & server, Clipboard, Printing-system, local security, login, directx, not to mention stability and compatibility.
Samba-TNG client, clipboard, gina logon and directx (draw and later d3d) are work in progress and will come in near future too.
Yes, isn't that nice!

Re: 0.4.0 goals

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:09 pm
by Jaix
digiboy wrote:That all sounds good to me :D

Just wanted to make sure priorities are where the majority would like them.

But then again, with many developers working I guess it really doesn't matter. Just plug stuff into the main trunk once it's working.
Exactly, I wasn't opposed to you, just informing you about that those stuff will probably come before 0.4 (unless 0.4 is coming really soon).

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:09 pm
by samwise52
IMO the big thing about 0.4 is MSVC building :D

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:01 pm
by Ferret-Simpson
NTFS isn't even supported on the *NIX's yet. I'm looking forward to Clipboard, Security, and Samba. Oh, and stability etc etc.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:43 pm
by Matthias
Ferret-Simpson wrote:NTFS isn't even supported on the *NIX's yet.
NTFS _is_ supported on Linux. Advanced features like rights management, compression, encryption etc. don't work, but the basics (e. g. reading, writing, creating and deleting files) do with the ntfs-3g driver. However i don't think it's necessary for ReactOS. If one really needs NTFS, he can use the driver from Windows.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:38 am
by Andre
NTFS read/write support is in the roadmap for version 0.5
So I guess we shouldn't worry about that right now.
Then, while devolping 0.4.0 the ntfs-3g can be also
further developed, and to be ported after the 0.4.0
release.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:59 am
by Coviti
Andre wrote:NTFS read/write support is in the roadmap for version 0.5
So I guess we shouldn't worry about that right now.
Then, while devolping 0.4.0 the ntfs-3g can be also
further developed, and to be ported after the 0.4.0
release.
Who said anything about ReactOS using NTFS-3G? If anything, (imo) ReactOS NTFS support should be based on Linux-NTFS (No messy FUSE crap).

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:21 am
by Andre
It is at the moment the most complete open sourse implementation of the NTFS filesystem.
One of the goals of 0.5 is full NTFS read/write support. This is providing that, so wouldn't it be logical to use this, in stead of an other incomplete solution.