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Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:59 pm
by PurpleGurl
I find regulations like these concerning, and I also find the non-civil attitude towards those at this forum who look at the larger picture of possible government collusion and misconduct to be concerning. If someone believes something underhanded is happening, I see it as their civil responsibility to bring it up, though to be honest, there are more appropriate venues for doing so. However, making uncivil comments about such people, attacking their credibility or questioning their mental wellness, etc., are not appropriate anywhere, IMHO. There is no "conspiracy crap," just dominating, controlling people trying to silence people with certain views. I apologize in advance for feeling someone must say that.

Hopefully the nonprofit exemptions would apply to us.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:30 pm
by karlexceed
I agree with you on most every point you've brought up.

That said, bringing up the idea of some sort of 'NWO'/'shadow government'/Illuminati-type group is absolutely conspiracy theory territory. And this forum is not for discussing such things. Nor is it for discussing politics outside of the scope where they impact ReactOS.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:16 pm
by erkinalp
PurpleGurl wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:59 pmHopefully the nonprofit exemptions would apply to us.
Better safe than sorry. If we had upload filters now, this very post would classify as plagiarism and be censored.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:59 pm
by karlexceed
erkinalp wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:16 pm If we had upload filters now, this very post would classify as plagiarism and be censored.
Quoting someone isn't plagiarism.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:44 pm
by middings
As I see it, quoting someone without attribution is one of the forms of plagiarism occasionally seen in this forum.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:45 pm
by ThFabba
The point is, an automated filter can't tell the difference and might therefore flag your post, even if it's blatantly obvious to a person that it's not a violation. That is (part of) what people are concerned about with this regulation.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:13 pm
by erkinalp
The law has been passed, but not ratified by national entities. Now, it is time to discuss how we will implement necessary filters and appeal mechanisms.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:00 pm
by bobbykennedy
They're not going to go after random forum posts or code commits... these law is meant to protect garbage music and videos by EU-based publishers that are copyrighted.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:40 pm
by erkinalp
We cannot assume that.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:37 pm
by shunesburg
bobbykennedy wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:00 pm They're not going to go after random forum posts or code commits... these law is meant to protect garbage music and videos by EU-based publishers that are copyrighted.
At beginning it not from EU, but US.
The pressures of US companies on EU with the helps of lobbies are very high, and the laws follow these pressures.

For the implement of the update filters, it will made with an upgrade of the commit server (I don't what is it maybe GIT or SVN...), when the option will be ready, there is no link with ReactOS itself.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:59 pm
by karlexceed
Since the only part of the ROS infrastructure that's really 'customized' seems to be the LDAP auth, I assume phpBB, GitHub, Mattermost, etc will all either have these features implemented or will have plugins available to assist the admins with the task at hand.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:53 pm
by bobbykennedy
If you're so concerned about upload filters, stop hosting reactos.org in Germany. The WHOIS lookups say the webhost/datacenter is Hetzner.

https://git.reactos.org
https://www.reactos.org

The above need would to switch to a web host in a non-EU/EEA country, such as a Swiss or Russian host. Then you don't have to concern yourself about upload filters or anything else unrelated to ReactOS development.
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Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:26 pm
by erkinalp
Russia is going to isolate its internet very soon. Switzerland is subject to the same copyright rules as EU. Andorra also follows EU rules closely, although it is not a member of it due to historical reasons. San Marino might work.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:03 pm
by onestop_mid
I suggest hosting ReactOS in the good ol' USA.

Re: Upload filters

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:08 pm
by erkinalp
GitHub is already in the US.