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(Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:18 pm
by henrytang5247
This poll is about to change the current NTVDM icon to the new icon.

Current icon:
[ external image ]

New Icon:
[ external image ]
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7o3fl ... /ntvdm.zip

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:26 pm
by hbelusca
Your archive seems to be corrupted (so that I cannot uncompress it), and the new screencapture is too blurry for me to be able to have a judgement on the new proposition :(

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:36 pm
by Swyter
Yeah. Please use a better place to host your screen captures (https://imgur.com is what the cool kids use nowadays), and preferably from a PNG file.
The overkill compression makes it difficult to appreciate the changes, like someone smearing vaseline on the camera lens. Here crisp pixels are key.

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:42 pm
by hbelusca
@Swyter: he used imgur for both the screencaptures. It's just that for whatever reason I don't know, his images where the modifications are, are always blurry.

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:18 pm
by Black_Fox
The second screenshot is blurred, yeah, but the archive tested just fine for me (using 7z).
I tried repackaging, maybe it helps - link.

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:03 pm
by henrytang5247

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:24 pm
by Swyter
What's the licensing and source? The 16px version is pretty decent.

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:58 pm
by henrytang5247

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:35 pm
by hbelusca

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:55 pm
by Pi_User5
I like the new icon. :) I give it my seal of approval. :D

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:18 pm
by Pi_User5
Could you please use this icon? :) https://www.mediafire.com/?9i09k0rbt8ainry

* It's the SAME icon but with 48pixel added.
* Also, this is NOT Henry's fault but the creator of the icon instead. :) I found the 32pixel icons to be a bit blurry so I fixed it. Just something I found. :D Just so no one is confused, the original icon is blurry, not the repackaged one.

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:29 pm
by Swyter
What about opening a new JIRA ticket? Or is Hermès going to commit it directly skipping all the mumbo-jumbo?

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:32 pm
by justincase
hbelusca wrote:Your archive seems to be corrupted (so that I cannot uncompress it)
Works fine for me. I wonder if your download failed:
[ external image ]
File: ntvdm.zip
CRC: C4C5E51B ED2K: e513ad162eabd6ce19af972a2368dbab
MD5: 25c6ccf553e365e21621139fd034de32
SHA1: 21eb100538534f0aed752bb989d78712f01c823f
SHA256: b0b453d254ce560dd9e8a50c91aaaac71a773b8033124a4fa1813a964b46d2ac
SHA512: c26e64110bdcbe49d4835953c835d7af3417bc505bad6035b0f855731917f26b21432cf52489c432dc05f09019cc176983032f6d6d3df7db40e38ce680ae166b
Then again, by now you can probably just use the one Pi_User5 posted. ;)
hbelusca wrote:and the new screencapture is too blurry for me to be able to have a judgement on the new proposition :(
Everything is identical except the icon and everything being blurry, so I'd guess he's using an image editor to swap in his changes, and doing something (e.g. some kind of compression) which makes it blurry.

Anyway, the new one seems to fit in with the look of the other icons a little bit better, but I personally like the old one better, and seeing as Microsoft's ntvdm didn't have an Icon, I'd stick with hbelusca's reasoning (with the exception of calling old computers ugly) over here:
hbelusca wrote:Because, NTVDM aims at emulating a 486-class PC-AT, only (with small extensions, but still). And as you know, the PCs at that time looked... ugly^^ : [pictures removed from quote]
The 90-ish look of the icon meant to reflect the oldiness of the hardware that is emulated in NTVDM.
Swyter wrote:What about opening a new JIRA ticket? Or is Hermès going to commit it directly skipping all the mumbo-jumbo?
If this icon is going to get changed, then yes, putting it on JIRA would be a good idea, that 'mumbo-jumbo' has it's place, but if hbelusca wants to skip it, that's fine too (after all, he not only chose, but created the current icon). On the other hand, I don't think there's any point in posting this to JIRA if the poll goes in favor of the current icon.

By the way, how long is this poll going to last before a winner is decided?

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:56 am
by PurpleGurl
I tend to think the older one better captures the nostalgia and the C:\ makes it clear what it is for. The one from the Tango set is just a generic older computer without the C: prompt. Other than that, I think the proposed one looks better. A 2-color icon tends to look out of place.

Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:14 am
by Konata
I agree. The proposed one is much more consistent, which makes it a better option. It would be nice to do something to make it a bit more like DOS, perhaps make the screen black with a little C:\> prompt, with some glare to make it look natural. But all in all, consistency is what's important, and, well, the current icon looks like a child drew it. It's not "retro", even old computer graphics can look good if a child isn't responsible for drawing it. My source is your favorite NES game.