(Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

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Which one you want the NTVDM icon.

Poll ended at Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:18 pm

Current
10
48%
New
11
52%
 
Total votes: 21

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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by justincase » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:30 am

Konata wrote:... well, the current icon looks like a child drew it.
I disagree.
(Sorry it's so big & blurry, I borrowed it from henrytang5247)
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See all those straight lines? Show me a kid who draws with straight lines. ;)
Konata wrote:It's not "retro"
Uh, yeah it is.
Perhaps it's before your time, but that's a fairly decent approximation to a style harkening all the way back to Windows 1.0. Don't trust me? Check out how similar the those 5¼ floppy drives are to the drive icons in this screenshot:
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Konata wrote:... all in all, consistency is what's important...
And once again, I disagree.
Yes it's important for an operating system's icon set to be fairly uniform, but NTVDM is not only a different subsystem, which modern programs should never touch, but it's actually a whole system unto itself, a complete computer, entirely separate in both design and implementation from the rest of the OS*.
I think NTVDM's icon and visual styling should reflect it's (virtual) age.

* Yes I realize NTVDM and ReactOS do tie into each other in a couple of ways in order to make it easy to double-click a DOS program and so that DOS programs can call Windows programs (and vice-versa), but that stuff isn't necessary, it could be pulled out and ReactOS and NTVDM could stand entirely separate from each other and still be considered complete. So while the ease of use facilitated by these tie-ins are, in part, why ReactOS has NTVDM (otherwise you may as well use DosBOX) I still say they're separate enough for different styles to be (in my opinion) not only allowable, but preferred.
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by Black_Fox » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:35 pm

So... would anyone please mind to create a new non-blurry screenshot with the new icon so that we can actually compare them in the context of their surrounding environment?

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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by henrytang5247 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:22 pm

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Fixed blurry screenshot...
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by Pi_User5 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:43 pm

Has anybody compared my icon to the original one? :)

We should also create the JIRA ticket.
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by henrytang5247 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:01 pm

Hi I am Henry. I often make Chinese and Malay translation and icons for ReactOS. I also a ReactOS Community Youtube Channel Manager.
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by Black_Fox » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:09 pm

Thanks for the updated screenshot, that helped a lot. Based on available screenshots my vote goes to the new icon.

@Jared: Your icon is much sharper/crisper and I prefer it.

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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by Pi_User5 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:45 pm

I uploaded my version to the JIRA ticket.
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by henrytang5247 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:47 pm

This is Jared version.

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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by Swyter » Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:53 pm

Looking pretty good. Nice work on the pixel pushing, Jared!
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by justincase » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:32 pm

Yeah, Pi_User5's mild cleanup looks much clearer than henrytang5247's. I like it better, but I still think hbelusca's is the best.
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by hbelusca » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:05 pm

The icons were committed in r72712 and r73082. Thanks to you all!

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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by ROCKNROLLKID » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:43 am

Now all we need is a new Recycling Bin icon and everything will be perfect.

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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by Swyter » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:34 pm

I don't particularly dislike the original Tango trashcan. But if someone can come up with something better, go ahead and post mock-ups in JIRA.
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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by ROCKNROLLKID » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:38 pm

I don't like the green color, to be honest. Maybe we can replicate the Windows 2000 recycling bin icon, as I liked how that looked. It doesn't have to be transparent, like it was in XP, as that usually costs a little more in resources anyways.

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Re: (Poll) Change new NTVDM icon

Post by dsp8195 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:39 am

ROCKNROLLKID wrote:I don't like the green color, to be honest. Maybe we can replicate the Windows 2000 recycling bin icon, as I liked how that looked. It doesn't have to be transparent, like it was in XP, as that usually costs a little more in resources anyways.
You do realize EVERY 32-bit Tango icon has partial transparency, and how much of it used in blending is COMPLETELY irrelevant, since it's a square matrix operation?! Every icon you see in the interface is blended according to display's colour scheme, not the one taken from icon (it's actually up-converted if its bit depth is mismatched, adding overhead to drawing operations)! Hence, the icon can be of any shape and design.

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