Hmm. I see. Indeed, now that you mention it, maybe the puffin wouldn't be all that bad. The colour of the beak could be adjusted to whatever colourscheme ROS wants to use. We could call the mascot 'Puffy'.fred02 wrote:Point 4? No, haven't read that far, sorry, too many words.Webunny wrote:Seen what Amine says here http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic. ... 27#p104968Well, my feeling is that most of what Z98 says is official ROS team statement(s), especially on things such as mascots, logos or distributions. And since we are talking about it, here is my feeling on the "officialness" of statements on the forum:Webunny wrote:we shouldn't be discouraged by any single reaction of a dev/ROS official.Now this total IMHO. I know there are other developers posting on the forum, Amine for instance, but their posts are few and far apart, so they get lost.
- any post by fireball: official, final (static, const (add equivalent in your favored language))
- Z98/EmuandCo close seconds
- vicmarcal third
Neither am I. But there is a lot of people complaining that they can not help because they know nothing about programming, this is an opportunity for them. I hope some will step forward.Webunny wrote:As I gather it, all initiative is welcomed, there not always need to be permission (well, obviously, using a mascot for ROS would), but most importantly, I think they especially wait for some real action/performance/delivery, instead of just talking about it. Which is why - even though I goof a bit about it too - ultimately come back to the issue of: does anyone, in effect, want (=is going to) to make an effort to make a mascot for ROS?
I mean, I don't mind making fun and speaking jokingly about it, but there comes a point where one clearly has to make the point if it's ONLY as a free-wheeling chit-chat we talk about it, or if anyone is seriously going to put his shoulders under it. I'm not an artist myself, so that's why I'm asking if there are here, or if we should maybe search for them elsewhere.
(Thinking aloud) I like more and more this puffin idea. We could use its brightly colored beak to make a play on the Windows(c) multicolor window logo. We should even use the same colors, after all Linus did it with the latest kernel for workgroups(c), so there is no copyright problem.
Ah, and I like the English name of it. Sounds like something comfy and fluffy, giving you a warm home feeling.
We would need a cute lil Puffy, though. So we can sell plushies afterwards. :-p
Problem remains: which artist here wants to have a go at it? And if none (are here), should we contact others and see if they want to come up with it?
Now, see, this is something that Amine doesn't understand clearly; while this is in all matters a 'side-project', you CAN NOT go through with it without some approval or nod from the higher hierarchy. Imagine going to all the trouble of finding artists, persuading them to make a cc free drawing of mascots, creating a poll and deciding the winner...
If the devs/official ROS then then says: 'nope, we don't like it'. All your effort is wasted.
No-one wants to do that, understandably.
You FIRST need to know it has approval and the devs will accept the outcome (aka; all members are equal after all, in the words of Amine), before people will start to move on it, imho. If you feel lacklustre, none, or a negative support from the dev-team, all the rest (enthousiasm, personal involvement, etc.) doesn't matter after all, for this project. And the same holds true for most other projects. I think it's a bit naïve of Amine to think that, if you say you do it out of your own name and not in the name of ROS, then everything is fine. What would be the point in that, concerning this project, for instance? Even if you do it in your own name, if the devs then say: "well, we don't care, we never asked or endorsed it and we don't accept the outcome", then none of it has had any use, and the theoretical concept of 'all being equal as members' remains a rather hollow slogan.