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NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:16 pm
by ReactOS_FAN
Hallo Guys,

anyone has news if ReactOS will have NT 6.x Features?

Like:
ASLR
DEP
UAC

And I suggest to implement Kernel-Based Virtualization like under Linux :)

Greetings,
ReactOS_FAN

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:42 pm
by hbelusca
Hi ! Our principal target is Windows Server 2003. So not those features (certainly not UAC, but one can hope ALPC...). Concerning virtualization, try to talk with Aleksey, he has some projects in mind concerning that (send him a mail, go to the IRC channel #reactos, ...)

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:10 pm
by ReactOS_FAN
Shouldn't be the Target Windows 7 or Vista?

ASLR and UAC are good security features.

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:26 pm
by Z98
Considering NT6 is built on NT5, until we have a stable NT5, trying to go for NT6 just makes things more difficult.

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:29 am
by ReactOS_FAN
I just hope ReactOS will be stable until 2020 :)

I don't want to use Metro/Ugly UI from MS.

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:08 pm
by kingnothing
ReactOS_FAN wrote:I just hope ReactOS will be stable until 2020 :)

I don't want to use Metro/Ugly UI from MS.
by then u will find NT 5 is in dumpster for developers
most application and games will not work on NT 5 based OS
ROS project is running slow
i fear when the project is ready to be launched as a stable OS i find myself having an OS but no programs to run on it
ironic isnt it

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:07 am
by PurpleGurl
kingnothing wrote: by then u will find NT 5 is in dumpster for developers
most application and games will not work on NT 5 based OS
ROS project is running slow
i fear when the project is ready to be launched as a stable OS i find myself having an OS but no programs to run on it
ironic isnt it
But maybe by then, developers would want to write for us? We could keep a large market share. Plus, lots of old software will still be around. Software doesn't go bad. What happens is the paradigm collapses around it. Or the closed source model does it poor justice.

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:51 pm
by milon
kingnothing wrote:most application and games will not work on NT 5 based OS
What makes you think that?

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:37 am
by kingnothing
milon wrote:
kingnothing wrote:most application and games will not work on NT 5 based OS
What makes you think that?
by 2020 the support on OS based on NT 5 will be totally dead
so all new apps and games will not work
and it will be harder to find software drivers for the hardware manufactured at that time
will be trying to install win9x on a modern computer as a primary OS

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:45 pm
by mametoc
kingnothing wrote:
milon wrote:
kingnothing wrote:most application and games will not work on NT 5 based OS
What makes you think that?
by 2020 the support on OS based on NT 5 will be totally dead
so all new apps and games will not work
and it will be harder to find software drivers for the hardware manufactured at that time
will be trying to install win9x on a modern computer as a primary OS
What makes you think that?

Might be depending how many users had MS Windows x86 installeds, even running in a PC x64 hardware.

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:00 pm
by milon
kingnothing wrote:by 2020 the support on OS based on NT 5 will be totally dead
It seems that NT5 is already no longer supported, and NT5.1 only has another year left. I didn't realize that before. :(
NT6.1 has until 2020.

Source: http://library.techguy.org/wiki/Windows
Tech Support Guy wrote:Windows 2000 - NT 5
* Released February 17, 2000
* Supported until July 13, 2010.

Windows XP - NT 5.1
* Released October 25, 2001
* Mainstream support until April 14, 2009.
* Extended support until April 8, 2014.

Windows Vista (Codenamed Longhorn) NT - 6
* Released January 30, 2007
* Mainstream support until March 31, 2012
* Extended support until April 11, 2017

Windows 7 - NT 6.1
* Released October 22, 2009
* Mainstream support until January 13, 2015
* Extended support until January 14, 2020.

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:06 pm
by Black_Fox
milon wrote:
Tech Support Guy wrote: Windows XP - NT 5.1
* Released October 25, 2001
* Extended support until April 8, 2014.

Windows 7 - NT 6.1
* Released October 22, 2009
* Extended support until January 14, 2020.
Interesting to see how the support window shrinks (and sad, with Win7 seems to me that there's less maintenance work in long run than was on XP with its 3 Service Packs).

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:29 am
by PascalDragon
Black_Fox wrote:
milon wrote:
Tech Support Guy wrote: Windows XP - NT 5.1
* Released October 25, 2001
* Extended support until April 8, 2014.

Windows 7 - NT 6.1
* Released October 22, 2009
* Extended support until January 14, 2020.
Interesting to see how the support window shrinks (and sad, with Win7 seems to me that there's less maintenance work in long run than was on XP with its 3 Service Packs).
Could be related to the fact that the time until a new OS version came out was much larger for XP (with its successor Vista) than for 7 (with its successor 8).

Regards,
Sven

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:11 pm
by Zc456
ReactOS_FAN wrote:Hallo Guys,

anyone has news if ReactOS will have NT 6.x Features?

Like:
ASLR
DEP
UAC

And I suggest to implement Kernel-Based Virtualization like under Linux :)

Greetings,
ReactOS_FAN
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Let's leave UAC out of this.

Re: NT 6.x Features?

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:09 am
by mrugiero
Zc456 wrote: Let's leave UAC out of this.
I think UAC is a nice feature to avoid software messing with the OS under the hood, while being able to install software without explictly loging in with an admin account (i.e., if you don't select "run as admin" something that should be ran as admin, prompts to). I wouldn't go farther than that, but at least Windows 8 doesn't seem to do much more.