WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

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WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by oswetto » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:44 pm

WinRT is a new set of APIs that have the following properties:
It implements the new Metro look.
Has a simple UI programming model for Windows developers (You do not need to learn Win32, what an HDC, WndProc or LPARAM is).
It exposes the WPF/Silverlight XAML UI model to developers.
The APIs are all designed to be asynchronous.
It is a sandboxed API, designed for creating self-contained, AppStore-ready applications. You wont get everything you want to create for example Backup Software or Hard Disk Partitioning software.
The API definitions is exposed in the ECMA 335 metadata format (the same one that .NET uses, you can find those as ".winmd" files).

WinRT wraps both the new UI system as well as old Win32 APIs and it happens that this implementation is based on top of COM.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by Murmur » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:12 pm

http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supers ... n32-140605

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This is obviously posted in "we are not even thinking about it" but it could be good for discussion on opinions and usefulness of it.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by Pesho » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:02 pm

Metro... oh jeez. :|

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by MadWolf » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:16 am

hi
have you tride the windows 8 Developer Preview http://windows8beta.com/2011/09/downloa ... er-preview the metro desktop Image Image
maybe good for tablet computers but not for a desktop pc or netbook /laptops

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by Pisarz » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:07 am

We are aware of that, but it's all about compatibility with whatever relevant Windows feature implemented anyway. And I think that Metro is important, even when it's useless. But... If you could implement it in better way... Make it more usable.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by ch_123 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:43 pm

An open source Win RT layer would be an interesting thing to work on for a WINE-like project. I think though that ReactOS should concentrate on making a usable Win32 OS first. It's going to be a long, long time before WinRT is more relevant than Win32.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by MadWolf » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:20 pm

hi
i guess a better question will windows 8 be another windows vista a complete failure !! and if it is a complete failure then Win RT layer will not be needed until windows 9 or 10

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by FlyingIsFun1217 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:20 pm

MadWolf wrote:hi
i guess a better question will windows 8 be another windows vista a complete failure !! and if it is a complete failure then Win RT layer will not be needed until windows 9 or 10
If Vista was a complete failure, why has wine and ReactOS implimented API's from it? Just because it's a "failure" doesn't mean it shouldn't be supported.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by Haos » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:35 pm

MadWolf wrote:i guess a better question will windows 8 be another windows vista a complete failure !! and if it is a complete failure then Win RT layer will not be needed until windows 9 or 10
Did you ever try using it? I do, 2 years on my previous lappy, and over 1.5 year on a desktop workstation. Windows 7 is less stable than it, i`m getting months on 24/7 uptime easily,

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by EmuandCo » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:13 pm

Well, ever thought about the fact that the apis you call vista apis are inside win7, too?!
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ReactOS is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by Sof_T » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:38 pm

Vista's fine, many teething troubles, but I'm far more comfortable with it at home than the Win7 machines at work. Compatibility is much better now than when it was first released, but then XP wasn't all plain sailing either.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by Dave3434 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:59 am

not everyone likes the metro ui.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by MadWolf » Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:51 pm

Haos wrote:
MadWolf wrote:i guess a better question will windows 8 be another windows vista a complete failure !! and if it is a complete failure then Win RT layer will not be needed until windows 9 or 10
Did you ever try using it? I do, 2 years on my previous lappy, and over 1.5 year on a desktop workstation. Windows 7 is less stable than it, i`m getting months on 24/7 uptime easily,
yes on a laptop that was probably too slow to run it and the public beta on my main computer at the time
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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by The123king » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:32 pm

Dave3434 wrote:not everyone likes the metro ui.
I genuinely don't know of anyone who does.

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Re: WinRT new api for WIN8 and ROS?

Post by SomeGuy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:35 pm

The123king wrote:
Dave3434 wrote:not everyone likes the metro ui.
I genuinely don't know of anyone who does.
They will MAKE you like it. :twisted:

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