Element Software partnership?

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Re: Element Software partnership?

Post by Haos »

The oss war drums are gathering.

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And the winner will be ... Microsoft

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Re: Element Software partnership?

Post by gabrielilardi »

I'm wondering how the heck did this thread get 15 pages for something that's been nothing but words...
Now people please, wake up:

FusionOS: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fos/files/
OpenROS: https://sourceforge.net/projects/openros/
React-Server: https://sourceforge.net/projects/reactos-server/
CaseOS: https://sourceforge.net/projects/cubeos/
LonicsDuoKernel https://sourceforge.net/projects/lonics/
A person "recruiting" devs to fork us: http://tspamos.czweb.org/

Now if I were to do something similar (something based off ros) I'd wait to have something tangible rather than talking theory all the time for almost five months risking that everyone will ignore me because I provided no real proof that what I was talking was true.

If this person will ever be going to do something with ros, it'll be him in first person to want his changes back to us, otherwise updating his sources will become more and more difficult with time, of course, this in the hypothetical case that he'll release something real, and only in that case we should worry about the license...

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[quote]Haos : No, since the release has not been released for the public yet. Once the binary is released, the patches will also be avaliable for download on the ElementOS wiki.

Like I said before, a release date cannot be set yet since there is still major work being done on the shell (the desktop is not fully implementd yet)

I will keep you updated.[/quote]

If you have patches that fix things in ROS, whats the point in waiting?
It would take you maybe 15-20 minutes to send a few to us?
In my opinion it would prove that your not using this thread for nothing other than PR.

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IIS 404 error as of now... can you please check the link / your Win 2003 server?

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gabrielilardi wrote:I'm wondering how the heck did this thread get 15 pages for something that's been nothing but words...
Now people please, wake up:

FusionOS: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fos/files/
OpenROS: https://sourceforge.net/projects/openros/
React-Server: https://sourceforge.net/projects/reactos-server/
CaseOS: https://sourceforge.net/projects/cubeos/
LonicsDuoKernel https://sourceforge.net/projects/lonics/
A person "recruiting" devs to fork us: http://tspamos.czweb.org/

Now if I were to do something similar (something based off ros) I'd wait to have something tangible rather than talking theory all the time for almost five months risking that everyone will ignore me because I provided no real proof that what I was talking was true.

If this person will ever be going to do something with ros, it'll be him in first person to want his changes back to us, otherwise updating his sources will become more and more difficult with time, of course, this in the hypothetical case that he'll release something real, and only in that case we should worry about the license...
I didn't know there WERE so many ReactOS clones. :roll:

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Re: Element Software partnership?

Post by patternjake »

Sorry, everyone, but I have to deliver to you all some bad news.

Element Software have decided to drop the ElementOS operating system project, and we have decided to instead to develop the desktop envoirenment instead of the full blown OS. We feel that this is nessecary since licensing constraints in ReactOS will not allow us to distrubute ElementOS FIle Digger and related components, which, are closed source, on the open source ReactOS operating system. Additionaly, we have, after reviewing long term plan, feel that we will be unable to maintain the complete operating system package and keep the sources updated, as it will be too taxing on our resources.

We instead are going to focus our efforts on the Element Desktop software, which will deliver a full desktop envoirement and additionaly compositioning effects \ layers for both ReactOS, Windows and Linux. Additionaly we will focus our efforts on Mac in time.

Sorry that I had to break this news to you, and I thank some of you for following me throughout the operating system development.

However, on the brighter side, development on the Element Desktop package will now be much quicker process, since we dont have to focus on patching ReactOS for the shell to work. Also, the Element Desktop will bring good benefits to the ReactOS community, since it is being coded to work on both ReactOS and Windows.

Sorry for being a pain, and I hope you can all support our decision.

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And I believe, you will not release source code, that would be Reactos usable? In other words, what was this thread about, after all?

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patternjake wrote: Element Software have decided to drop the ElementOS operating system project, and we have decided to instead to develop the desktop envoirenment instead of the full blown OS.
And wasn't that what I told you to do some time ago?

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Post by The123king »

at least release the patches you made, maybe then we can improve ReactOS ;)

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Post by PetruDimitriu »

patternjake wrote:Element Software have decided to drop the ElementOS operating system project.
I have the vague impression that it's our fault... but could you try to release the OS for us just to see and feel it and maybe help you develop it further?

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i am afraid that there were nothing like ElementOS, so there will be no source code released :(

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PetruDimitriu : I would very much love to send out a build of ElementOS, but the current licensing agreement of the ReactOS project makes this pretty much impossible to release ElementOS in its state of last build. Its a shame too, since progress was really being made on it, and a public build was going to be released early next year. In the best regards, we will still provide the desktop shell for use on ReactOS , and / or windows.

The only way with the current license of ReactOS that we could get ElementOS out to users would be to make the other components open source, which we do not want to do, since they are based on closed source programs (Element Browser, TotalProtect, etc)

You will get to see how the ElementOS project would have been in the Element Desktop software, you can even add it to ReactOS, but it cannot be INCLUDED per se with ReactOS code. Shame.

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ironek69 : I know it is all speculation at the moment, but I would like to see your source of information that ElementOS does not exist. Indeed it does, its just a whole licensing issue preventing us from releasing the code as it is. Hence, we have seperate our closed source apps from the OS, and ported it back to a single software again.

The shell will be avaliable anyhow, and will still include the compositioning layer \ theming that was talked about many months ago.

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Re: Element Software partnership?

Post by ironek69 »

patternjake: yes, it's only speculations. But in one of above posts you can see, there were more Reactos clones, with no real activity going on. I still wish you well, but with your decision ElementOS became one of those non-existing systems, and fact that Element Desktop will run on Reactos doesn't make it special...

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