FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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Join FreeDOS into ReactOS?

Yes, it looks good!
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33%
No!!!
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I do not understand
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I have no decided
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I would not like to explain my choice
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6%
 
Total votes: 36

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

Post by Blackcrack »

erkinalp wrote:
EmuandCo wrote:Even Win64 has a cmd window and you never will be able to run a DOS app in it.
If we would want, we can develop support for DOS and 16-bit apps in Win64.
if you whant make it so make it as an Extended Project, by side of reactos, if you can Do that so make an extra Project for it to make it as install/pach for reactos to support the old Dos and an real 16Bit to use old times apps with an spezial integrated hardware-emulator who can get an installed dos an "realtime-box" with vfat&some fs-support to can let run in the installed filesystem, but like EmuandCo sad and Haos too, is is this no priority to have real 16bit-system at first mus run Reactos... If you whant make an support to installing Dos with an own vm direktly for it&and installing dos to have an Dos with ems and extended Memory and maby with an loading dos by start the DOS-VM with an own Windows who run under XP mayby too ... like an Subsystem iwth emulating hardware or using the directx to have the svga-support&opengl, maby soundblasteremu to directx ;)

Take this as idea to make an own Dos-VM-Project to installing in Reactos to use old Apps/Games too :D
like Doom, Doom2 and Tyrian, or other J&R-Games ..... without an big Computeremulator only an lightwave VM for dos to installing and open an real-dos-window with all at start who have fs-acces and take Real-Floppy or an emulating-floppy like floppy.img/install.img and CDRom-Emulator on folder, image or direckt access ;D ...
and why not named ROS-Dos-VM Project as own son/thoter-project from Reactos as own running project .... Dos it's need only 1-32MB(32mb it's manny) and an anabelity to realaccess to hardware with Administrator-password for Biosupdate or flashes for old hardware.. (to have mayby more ¿trickerd¿ possibilitys) ;) mayby :D

take it as idea for you own Project to make an lightwave-dos-realtime-vm with direcktly filesystem support for Reactos / WinNT-Architecture .. maby as Service? to integrating more in the system ....
To have possibility installing as Administrator in an NT-System.

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Blacky

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Notice is removed by myself!
Last edited by erkinalp on Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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As with every your idea blackcrack, you are free to code it till it "works". Not that i expect to see any of it with me very own eyes...

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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IMHO it is a better solution to install DosBox in ReactOS :)

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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Hy,

and why not cooperating?, i mean there with ,
working hand in hand to have easy the best know how..

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Blacky

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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Why not? Because it is not you who would be doing all the coding work...

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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Hy Haos,

and you, take please a little bit looking in the mirror.
It is at least the idea, which can give the beginning.
We have Andrew and if Jim could helps it which larger become,
as if one is as a single fighter on the way.
So one can co-operate as group. You are pleased also,
if you pointed-per-ducked with that are more possible
than only limited things.

best Regards
Blacky

p.s.:freedos in 32bit

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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As we already stated in the 1st page of this thread:

DOS == command.com in Win 9x, BUUT:
DOS != cmd.exe in Windows NT!

dosvm has nothing in share with a real DOS OS and a full rewrite would be more simple than modding freedos.

Additionally we might use this project: http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/
ReactOS is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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Hy EmuandCo,


from Andrew, i know, but the cmdline it's the same like the old dos, but
it is be like it be programming(it is clear real Disk Ordering System it's not the same like them on NT) .
And, Old Peoples, know Tip's ad Trick's like an old rabbit , you see ? *s*
Many, not any whant learn programming and not at all have the possibility for it.
How ever, but the experience can only be good for a long time to learn who
be in the net at last 17/18 years. Why not make the cmd or easy to say
WinNT-Dos not more like bash with more tty's as service and ssh as
standartprotokoll with crypting and tunneling as standart to have an
"terminal/consolesystem" like Linux. with lots command's (manny exe/comfiles)
who can using. how ever... let see what's Andrew programming..
i think it whant be not an bad to be if Jim programming with it ... or so *s*
or Andrew call Jim or others for helping hand on Rosbox :D .

best regards
Blacky

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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It is at least the idea, which can give the beginning.
Yeah, a typical "Let us... you do it" of yours. Do you have anything to add apart from "ideas"?

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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Haos,

it's okey, i leave you, if you dont like to understand, so be it oky and let make peace,
i did say it 2nd, not any like learn programing but it make other thinks around Reactos.
I like Advising or advice per mail to become more good programmers around the world,
you do not see it.. or i do other things were you not show.. around Ros ...
how ever, this Diskuss on this tread it's ending for my.
Haos, let it in peace and leave my in future.. please, i try to leave you too oky,
in peace..

best Regards
Blacky

p.s.: last possibility it's some listings for my..

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When will the thread have closed?

Post by erkinalp »

When will this thread get closed.I also ignore the poll.
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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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Z98 wrote:Windows has an extremely complex compatibility layer in place to handle DOS applications. The thing you keep calling COMMAND.COM is just the cmd in later versions, and our cmd was from FreeDOS to begin with. It by itself does nothing to ensure that DOS applications run.
Short and simple answers. I like.

Considering the architectural differences between FreeDos and ReactOS, I don't see how they could be merged into a single operating system without it no longer being ReactOS. If you're planning an open-source implementation of the Windows 9x kernel, I find that personally interesting, though I'm no good at code so I probably wouldn't be able to contribute. However, if you did that, it wouldn't be ReactOS anymore, since ReactOS is based on the NT kernel, and Windows 9x is a different kernel plain and simple. I would suggest that we get NT-based ReactOS up and running before anybody considers forking the project. It wouldn't be smart to build a new operating system from another that isn't even working right yet. When ReactOS is up and running, you can exercise your rights under the GPL and use whatever components you need from ReactOS to build your ReactDOS or whatever you want to call it.

There is another discussion in the Design forum discussing the possibility of a Win16/DOS compatibility layer you might find interesting. I thought it sounded interesting myself, considering it was actually talking specifics, and not simply "I wanna play Commander Keen natively on my hardware!"

...Nobody plays Commander Keen. I'm thinking out loud again. Scratch that.

Anyways:
http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic. ... &sk=t&sd=a
The123king wrote:i hate to sound like a twit but can't we use bits from FreeDOS in ReactOS? (ie incorporate FreeDOS' defrag command into ReactOS' (currently non-existent) defrag API)
You probably don't want to do that. If I remember properly the old MS-DOS versions of the defrag utility could blow up a WIn9x installation, so I wouldn't want to even try it on an NT platform. (I might be wrong; if I am Z98 or somebody correct me, please.) It's not a dumb question, though.

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Re: When will the thread have closed?

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erkinalp wrote:When will this thread get closed.I also ignore the poll.
Oh, I keep it open for a little longer. Its starting to get funny. First he misunderstands Andrew and then thinks he can bash all ppl who say we have a easier way to write from scratch than using FreeDOS Code, which is right. Vae Vae heu me miserum.
ReactOS is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing purposes.

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Re: FreeDOS and ReactOS Project Junction

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RaptorEmperor wrote:...Nobody plays Commander Keen.
I beg to differ, sir.

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