On User issues [RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..]
Justin Walsh
justin_2006 at operamail.com
Sat Oct 22 07:46:47 UTC 2005
I'm a little confused.
And am now dumping Telstra, Bigpond.net.au Webmail,
because they are too incompetant to remain in business.
Although I have unbolted IE and everything else bar the kitchen-sink, I am still being pentrated by reminants of IE.
They should be made face the Courts, I can't do it alone.
Meanwhile I'm getting familiar with Opera Web Mail. Sigh?
Meanwhile back to the issues...
Hello World,
Kevin. This conversation below is just what makes ReactOS so strong, but there is a danger that it can end in mere talk. I would like to dwell on what you have just said, but on a separate thread: like User-Issues.
I strongly urge "Those Who Are In Control" to create a more convenient structure.
Like say, this: The Begin/End block is to stress the point.
ros-general
BEGIN block
ros-User-Issues
ros-Programmer-Issues
END block
This issue is very important to me, but I'm embarrased that I might be blocking the Entry-Exit.
Cheers and rosuccess
Justin
---- wrote:
> I don't see these products which are available for managing MS Windows into a more streamlined OS as being particularly against ReactOS. To me they are just a way of trying to get the bloated and sloppy Windows to work a bit better until the alternative is mature enough to use all day, every day. When ReactOS achieves this I will dump MS Windows, but till then I try to make the best of it. In a way, the fact that these system management utilities exist can help the ReactOS project 'get it right' where Microsoft failed.
> DOS dead ? Maybe MS-DOS, yes, and possibly IBM's PC-DOS in the near future - but there are several other DOS variants, DR-DOS and Freedoms for example, which have a useful place in the grand scheme of things. Like the way Partition Magic uses DR-DOS to provide an op system to boot from floppy. Very useful on either new, virgin machines or when you've got hard drive problems.
> Can't trust Microsoft ? I believe the one group of people who CAN trust Microsoft are their shareholders.
> Kevin.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jwalsh at bigpond.net.au [mailto:jwalsh at bigpond.net.au]
> > Sent: 20 October 2005 23:43
> > To: ReactOS General List
> > Cc: Kevin Lawton
> > Subject: RE: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..
> >
> >
> > Well, there it is Kevin, suddenly a Window of opportunity is opening.
> > It looks good, but I must warn you to read the fine print:
> > This product seems to go against the intersts ReactOS.
> >
> > 1. So far it supports Windows 2000, XP x86/x64 and 2003 x86/x64
> > all languages. Windows Vista will be supported as well.
> >
> > I may be wrong here, but why not just say DOS or Fat32?
> >
> > 2. It needs at least .NET Framework 1.1 in order to run it...
> >
> > Now I have no doubt that DOS is on the way out.
> >
> > She is desparate to dump her old following and Australia won't
> > take them anymore. This dump site is closed.
> >
> > But I will study it more closely and apologise if I am wrong.
> >
> > My acute sense of distrust (my worst feature) tells me Ms is
> > turning bad luck into another good fortune again.
> >
> > Why Justin not give then a chance.? I will, I will, but...
> >
> > Please ReactOS, watch your back (office).
> >
> > Hmmm???
> >
> > Cheers ans rosuccess
> > Justin
> >
> > ---- TwoTailedFox <twotailedfox at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Kevin, if you're looking to slim down Windows 2000 (Or XP/2003, for
> > > that matter), check out nLite: http://www.nliteos.com
> > >
> > > On 10/20/05, Kevin Lawton <kepla at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > I had not heard of this 'LitePC' thing before - it sounds
> > almost too good to be true.
> > > > Thanks for the info - I will be giving it a try to trim my
> > Win 2000 installations down to a more sensible size.
> > > > Been down the Linux road too but, when you consider the
> > current bulkiness of the more 'useful' Linux distros and the
> > difficulties of using it with modern toys like phones or cameras,
> > I find I have to keep Windows hanging around - at least until
> > ReactOS is 'all present and correct'. FreeBSD is an interesting
> > option for Unix-like-ness on a PC, with Cygwin and Win4Lin having
> > their place too.
> > > > Dunno about ros-insane, maybe it should be ros-inspired.
> > > > Plenty of new things to play with now. :-)
> > > > Kevin.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ros-general-bounces at reactos.org
> > > > > [mailto:ros-general-bounces at reactos.org]On Behalf Of
> > > > > jwalsh at bigpond.net.au
> > > > > Sent: 20 October 2005 05:08
> > > > > To: ReactOS General List
> > > > > Cc: Robert Köpferl
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ros-general] OK, Time for a few words..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If I may add my 2 cents worth.
> > > > > I too have a spot in my heart for Linux Gui's, both KDE and Gnome.
> > > > > However the overheads are too high. So I have 3 three Thinkspads
> > > > > on the net.
> > > > > and a comfortable swivel chair.
> > > > > IMHO Linux is toooo fat and slow and badly designed, before I get
> > > > > flamed it is only MHO.
> > > > > So I have tried to compromise (on Particulars, not on Principles).
> > > > > This was my strategy (for what it is worth):
> > > > > Please remember it is only MHO, and not set in concrete.
> > > > > I chose the first Linux distro off the block i.e. Slackware
> > > > > because it stuck to basic principles. Yes as simple as that. The
> > > > > old 1440 KB floppy disk (about the size of my limited imagination).
> > > > > I chose a basic Windows32 platform i.e. 9x
> > > > > Then I worked on the tiny Linux's (Monkey Linux, and pocket Linux)
> > > > > Until I discovered Pat Villani's :
> > > > > Linux for Windows 9X
> > > > > Home page: http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv/
> > > > > Download:
> > > > > ftp://opensourcedepot.com/pub/linux/WinLin9X/v0.2/setup.exe
> > > > > Author: Pat Villani (http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/patv)
> > > > > Mailing list: lin4win at opensourcedepot.com
> > > > > It was great, it sat neatly in 18 MB.
> > > > > Then I asked myself, "what the heck am I doing with nearly half a
> > > > > gig of Windows98se?"
> > > > > Not wanting to bring Microsoft down on my financially poor head:
> > > > > I downloaded Australian product called 98Lite from LitePC.com
> > > > > (trial version)
> > > > > I liked it so much I bought the real thing.
> > > > > It gave me the opportunity to unbolt everything which Microsoft
> > > > > told the courts was not possible to do.
> > > > > There she was, stripped from nearly half a gig to 50mb, stark
> > > > > naked, but looking like Homer Simpson.
> > > > > The speed increase was fantastic. Now I am going for 30 mb, then
> > > > > 16, then 8, then .......
> > > > > The full story would take too long to tell, so I will leave
> > it at that.
> > > > > Suffice to say I have now dumped Linux and gone back to
> > Unix BSD and bash.
> > > > > That is when met Minsys and it was a good feeling.
> > > > > I was Bourne again, bash'ed about the head, so to speak.
> > > > > Oh I forgot there is a need for one extra doorway off ros-general
> > > > > especially for me.
> > > > > Mark it ros-insane.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers and rosuccess
> > > > >
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > ---- "Robert Köpferl" <rob at koepferl.de> wrote:
> > > > > > Hhmmm, what you tink of is what I call a GDI-Port+win32 of xfree.
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > > Richard Campbell wrote:
> > > > > > > XFree86 has already been ported to windows, whats the point
> > > > > in a ROS port?
> > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > Robert Köpferl wrote:
> > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > >> It should be possible to port Xfree86 to ROS (be it win32 or
> > > > > posix) as
> > > > > > >> it has been proted to os2.
> > > > > > >>etc
> > > > > > >> TwoTailedFox wrote:
> > > > > > >> etc
> > > > > > >>> I've seen quite a few users propose ideas, such as a
> > new GUI, or new
> > > > > > >>> functionality, only to be told it doesn't fit in with the
> > > > > Core Goal of
> > > > > > >>> ReactOS.
> > > > > > >>> etc
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