[ros-dev] Interesting article

Aleksey Bragin aleksey at reactos.org
Thu Sep 29 15:27:49 UTC 2011


There are millions of people using Linux as a desktop OS throughout  
the world and there was a huge amount of work done to make an OS  
suitable for desktop usage. But it doesn't change the fact.
We see mobile devices market emerging rapidly, servers infrastructure  
is quite densely occupied by Linux, and as for supercomputers, Linux  
dominates there.
But when it comes to desktops: Linux has no future in the desktop  
market. That's plain simple.

P.S. No holywars, it's just a fact which I wanted to state as my  
opinion and an opinion of some people I spoke to. I respect those who  
run and use Linux for daily work of course.

On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo wrote:

> i use it at work, through. WinXP into vbox .
>
> I still like Linux more than Windows, mostly because of stability.
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Aleksey Bragin  
> <aleksey at reactos.org> wrote:
> That's because smart people understand that Linux is not an  
> operating system for desktops.
>
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 7:52 AM, dmex wrote:
>
> Kinda surprised Linus would even mention or care about users  
> considering the
> Linux kernel is not built or optimized for desktop machines.
>
> http://apcmag.com/why_i_quit_kernel_developer_con_kolivas.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ros-dev-bounces at reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev- 
> bounces at reactos.org] On
> Behalf Of Adam
> Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2011 7:59 AM
> To: ros-dev at reactos.org
> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Interesting article
>
> One could say it works both ways. developers do not fully  
> understand the
> user's needs and it's all about "look at this new code! so cool!"  
> while the
> users are going "just fix it you stoopid geek" etc.
>
> But Linus has a good point about end users. You could have the most
> fantastic recursive whale saving algorithm (which unlike Johnny's  
> algorithm,
> uses B+ trees instead of linked lists and heaps somewhere) on the  
> planet but
> it is no good if your target audience cannot use it.
> If the target audience can use Johnny's algorithm but not your more  
> super
> efficient one, they'll use Johnny's algorithm even though it is a  
> hundred
> times slower.
>
> A classic example is Heidi Eraser - was a fantastic product until  
> the head
> developer guy decided to use .NET (in version 6.0) and now when people
> complain about it he ignores them and just goes "Oh the code's a  
> lot better
> and much cleaner than before and it doesn't matter what the end user
> thinks..." and shit. Sure the code *might* be better but now you  
> have a huge
> runtime, shit that runs in the background, and a crappy and  
> difficult to use
> interface. And you've lost Windows 2000 support.
> Needless to say now I am writing my own erase utility since even  
> that is an
> easier task than attempting to use their stupid interface. While  
> that is
> being written I'm sticking with the older version.
>
> This also brings me to another thing about massive changes in code:  
> if it
> ain't broke then don't fix it.
>
> I agree with Linus on this one.
>
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:56:52 +0400
> Aleksey Bragin <aleksey at reactos.org> wrote:
>
> FYI:
>
> This is Linus' interview. http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Feature-
> Articles/Linus-Torvalds-s-Lessons-on-Software-Development-Management/
> ba-p/440
>
> He very correctly outlines many things. One of the most important:
> "The other thing-and it's kind of related-that people seem to get
> wrong is to think that the code they write is what matters. No, even
> if you wrote 100% of the code, and even if you are the best programmer
> in the world and will never need any help with the project at all, the
> thing that really matters is the users of the code. The code itself is
> unimportant; the project is only as useful as people actually find
> it."
>
> And this:
> "Way too many projects seem to think that the code is more important
> than the user, and they break things left and right, and they don't
> apologize for it, because they feel that they are 'fixing' the code
> and doing the right thing."
>
>
> WBR,
> Aleksey Bragin.
>
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