[ros-dev] Vicmarcal - are you mad?

Adam geekdundee at gmail.com
Fri May 6 08:52:49 UTC 2011


vicmarcal - I have a lot of mental conditions and a disability. In fact  
these affect me enough (as well as other work) that I find it difficult to  
make real contributions to ROS other than the occasional patch here and  
there. If there is a problem it may be worth letting people know about it  
- at least in IRC - so that this sort of thing does not happen again.

After all how can one help if one does not understand the problem.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 18:23:22 +1000, victor martinez  
<vicmarcal at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Caemyr!
>
> I am quite worried you didnt notice my mental status before, as I have  
> been around for almost 3 years now. I am trying to get over this small  
> handicap.
> Meanwhile, maybe you can begin looking yourself, reflect on your  
> overreacted email and apologize.
>
> I am pretty easy to find on IRC so sending this kind of email is just  
> unnecessary spam to a list that has not been created for this kind of  
> stuff.
> Do you know that premise about "Talk and Share in Private before moving  
> to Public". If not, please, learn about it.I am sure it'll help in your  
> real life too and it is really needed when working in a project with  
> other mates.
>
> Now let me reply your suggestions/opinions:
>
>> Bugzilla is crowded with untouched bugs for so long, and you HAVE to  
>> add more crud to it?
> I'll ignore the "crud" word in this sentence(as I'll talk about the  
> report you pointed later). Do you mean you prefer not sending bugreports  
> to Bugzilla?
> Of course I can ignore bugs when testing and not reporting to Bugzilla,  
> but THE Tester work is reporting anything wrong. So I'll keep sending  
> bugreports even if they get totally ignored.
>
>> Bugs like no.6214, very usefull as we can see below:
>> "1)Download ClickToDesktop
>> 2)Run in ReactOS
>
>> 3)Click on the desktop to hide. It doesn't work. Apps just lost the  
>> focus.
>> Nothing appears in the DebugLog."
> Could you quote my WHOLE bugreport and not just a "piece of it"?  
> http://www.reactos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=6214
> You will see not just the replication method but also: the ReactOS  
> revision tested, a link to download the app, the Source code of the App  
> and information about How it works.
> No, I am not going to make easy jokes about visual impairment because  
> these guys have all my respect:
>
> "r51583
> ClickToDesktop:
> http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/ClickToDesktop/ClickToDesktop.exe
>
>
> Click on the desktop to hide all windows,
>
>
> Features:
>
> - Or click at the middle part of the top of the screen.
>
> - Click again to unhide.
>
>
> SourceCode:
> http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Skrommel/ClickToDesktop/ClickToDesktop.ahk
>
>
> 1)Download ClickToDesktop
>
> 2)Run in ReactOS
>
> 3)Click on the desktop to hide. It doesn't work. Apps just lost the  
> focus.
>
>
>
> Nothing appears in the DebugLog."
>
> And now we can talk about "how bad the bugreport is" or in your words  
> "crud report" because not following the Wiki way of reporting it:
> (Paragraph extracted from our Wiki)
>> Reproduction method using step by step instructions.
> DONE
>> Hardware or virtual machine configuration.
> DONE
>> Tested ReactOS version (verify also that it does happen on nightly  
>> builds)
> DONE
>> The version of the application tested (if any) and a download link  
>> (URL).
> DONE
>> Screenshot of the problem if it's a graphical bug (add the attachment  
>> in Bugzilla).
> It is not a graphical bug. DONE
>> Debug log for crashes, freezes and application errors. See Debugging to  
>> see how to obtain a high quality debug output.
>
> There is nothing in the DEBUG LOG. Nothing as NO NEW LINE in putty after  
> launching the app. DONE.
>> Choose a concise bug title.
>
> DONE
>> Do not post more than one issue in a single bug report.
>
> DONE
>
> Plus I have added a link to the SourceCode of the app. So, Caemyr, may  
> you tell me which guideline/s I am not following?
> Again, even if my bugreport is not good enough(I am open to criticism  
> and Dev pointing me to add any useful debugchannels to obtain extra  
> debugging), there are ways to tell it. And no, you don't know how to  
> tell things. I am pretty offended by the way you said it, not by the  
> content. Don't use ReactOS to help you in your personal attacks.
>
> PD: Considering I am Spanish, that my blood is much hotter than any  
> European around, I has been quite polite.
>
>
>  		 	   		


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