[ros-dev] Short summary of our September meeting in Sweden, jointly written by JaixBly and Fireball

[Aleksey Bragin]

Yes, this is a key point, being better than existing setups.
Imagine how it's done with Linux now: You have a preinstalled Linux,  
say, dedicated server. Then you log into it using ssh, do aptitude  
(or rpm, or whatever) install apache2, then install php5, then  
install mysql. Then you go to /etc/apache2/ and start editing  
apache.conf, go to /etc/apache2/conf.d, hack something there. Then it  
doesn't work because it can't resolve fully qualified name, you go  
to /etc/network, edit text files there, then go to /etc/resolv.d to  
set correct DNS servers, then set up correct host name in a dozen of  
different places.
That was just apache2. Then you proceed to mysql, edit hundreds of  
other config files and watching logs simulteneously in /var/log.

I think in the modern world, a person should remotely login via a  
graphics shell into Windows/ReactOS-alike desktop, and configure  
stuff there using Control Panel! Install LAMP using our package  
manager, finetune config using tools like WEBMIN and enjoy running  
your server. The only thing preventing people from using that way now  
because Windows costs real money and Linux is free.

I performed setups of Linux servers I think, hundreds of times, and  
everytime I was bitching about it. Last time was a couple of days ago  
when I was setting up a ZoneMinder server for 5th time, because  
precious Ubuntu package manager sucked, the kernel didn't support my  
capture card without guess what?! recompiling the "kirnel"!! And that  
I had to increase default shared memory size (I spent hours searching  
which line in which config to add for *ubuntu* to recognize that I  
want shmmax to be increased), symbolically linking stuff so that  
apache2 is happy and sees my zm directory.
Certainly ZoneMinder is not available for Windows because Windows  
costs money and is proprietary. It's same reason I have to choose  
Linux everytime I need a server.

If I had the option to use a much better, modern and free operating  
system - I would not think even one second what to choose.

Did I convince you that ReactOS-based servers aren't that bad idea? :)

WBR,
Aleksey Bragin.

On Oct 23, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Olaf Siejka wrote:

> How will you convince anyone that such setup on ReactOS is of any  
> worth to be used and what is more important - better to be used  
> over similar linux setups?
> Right now we dont have enough manpower to keep testing ROS on a  
> most basic level (its over a week, or even more since i managed to  
> discover the broken resolution change switch... pretty basic,  
> huh?). Starting another target will either have us split our thin  
> resources over another goal (like arwinss did beforehand) so if we  
> dont have any more people, we will be forced to drop work on trunk  
> (our main goal) even futher.
>
> Regards
>
> 2010/10/23 Aleksey Bragin <aleksey at reactos.org>
> Hi ReactOS friends and colleagues.
> Webserver
> - Network subsystem (mainly tcpip.sys driver, and some winsock  
> improvement)
> - VNC support (future RDP support)
> - Apache/MySQL/PHP support
> - XAMPP with toolbox
> - WEBMIN
>
> Thin Client (LiveCD or BootCD)
> - Re-port our MSTSC.EXE
> - Local printing (USB/LPT printer support?)
>
> Please give us your opinion and please also add possible ideas that  
> you have and think through what needs to get in place to see it  
> come to pass.
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Aleksey & Jan (Jaix)
> through Jan
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