[ros-dev] Arwinss architecture

[Alex Ionescu]

What you guys need is some way to convince the ARM Ninjas that rewriting the
memory manager won't make the ARM port easier -- but that rewriting
win32k/gdi32/user32 will!
Best regards,
Alex Ionescu


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Samuel serapion <samdwise51 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I love you.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Timo Kreuzer <timo.kreuzer at web.de>wrote:
>
>> King InuYasha schrieb:
>> > Arwinss resembles the NT3/Vista/7 architecture for Win32k, while the
>> > implementation that some people are saying is "right" is more in line
>> with
>> > the NT4-WinXP.
>> You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
>> arwinss has no more in common with NT3 or Vista/7 than with NT4/XP/2003
>> architecture.
>> Also Vista/Win7 architecture is following XP/2003 architecture much more
>> than NT3.
>>
>> > In the strictest sense of the definition, both arwinss and
>> > the current default implementation styles are "correct." Both
>> > implementations work and allow Windows NT drivers to work with it, so
>> that's
>> > not the problem. It also adds in RDP-esque support through X, which is
>> > pretty cool too.
>> > I guess some of these people don't like Wine code. The problem with that
>> is
>> > that without Wine code, ReactOS would probably take ten times as long to
>> > actually get to a usable state.
>> That's just bs.
>> The win32 subsystem has a bunch of bugs yes, but don't expect them to go
>> away by using more wine code.
>>
>> > Using Wine code for win32k seems to cross
>> > some sort of line for them. I heard some of them saying the Wine code
>> for
>> > win32k is "ugly."
>> When you talk about "them" and "these people" you talk about us, don't
>> you? It's win32k devs you talk about, right? If you can do the coding
>> for us, ...
>>
>> > What does ugliness have to do with it? Being able to share
>> > more with Wine saves a lot of hard work from ReactOS devs. They can
>> focus
>> > more on bringing the NT kernel up to scratch, rather than spending more
>> time
>> > with the Win32k code.
>> And this is exactly what is *not* happening. Aleksey currentlty spends
>> his time with this win32k rewrite instead of something useful, like
>> fixing the kernel or fixing the real win32k or fixing fat or usb or
>> porting reactos to mips.
>>
>> > They could even work on adding in other subsystems, if
>> > they wanted to.
>> >
>> Yes everyone is free to code what he likes, it just won't lead us
>> anywhere.
>>
>> Sorry for sounding rude, but I just hate when people with no
>> understanding about the topic are spreading misinformation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Timo
>>
>>
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