[ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [fireball] 42000: - Create a branch for upcoming work. "<XXX> people will eat you alive anyway so it doesn't really matter"

[Alexandru Lovin]

Oh, that sounds like Vladimir Putin. I have another two:

"Trust me. Give me absolute power and I will fix the Russian democracy."
"I've decided to retain my power. Those in favor, say aye. Those opposed,
say nothing."

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Alex Ionescu <ionucu at videotron.ca> wrote:

> This is such an awesome russian response :)
> "Let me finish the political upheveal first, "restructure" the parliament,
> rebuild the economy and then my vision will become clear".
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Aleksey Bragin <aleksey at reactos.org>wrote:
>
>> Don't jump into fast conclusions :-)
>>
>> I will explain thoroughly and in all details what's being done. Just let
>> me commit the remaining of my stuff first.
>>
>>
>> WBR,
>> Aleksey Bragin.
>>
>>
>>  On Jul 18, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Timo Kreuzer wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I still don't get it. What do you want to research here? How wine works?
>> Or how windows works? Or how to create a monstrous chimera from reactos and
>> wine?
>>
>> I wonder what people would say, if I created a branch called arsentxx,
>> cleaned out ntoskrnl and imported LUK... ;-P
>>
>> Well, my current opinion is that this is simply a lot of wasted time and
>> will most likely end up like nwin32 (which was a much better idea) and most
>> other branches being left alone and bitrotting.
>>
>> Anyway, this is just my opinion, based on what I have seen and guesses, as
>> long as noone states the real goal of this. And of cause everyone is free to
>> spend his free time with whatever he likes :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Timo
>>
>> PS: That world domination thing won't work this way. I tried that myself.
>> You need more robots!
>>
>> James Tabor schrieb:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Alex Ionescu<ionucu at videotron.ca> <ionucu at videotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>> What are you guys trying to do, btw?
>> Get Wine's GUI running in ReactOS for better app-compat? (I hope not, for
>> multiple reasons I can discuss if this is what you're attempting to do).
>>
>>
>> I don't think wine can draw w/o X so answer is no~ Wine uses those
>> X->Z(,,,) to driver calls and it would include winex11.drv as a
>> minimal to be added and adapted to call our driver code so~ for sure
>> this is a No. ie. [wine, user] create a window, it calls the driver
>> and that is winex11.drv so a call to X is performed there.
>>
>> I've added X to our code base to support math needed for drawing, I
>> guess those could be adapted as well....? The math is sound, but as an
>> extra layer of code, is not what I wanted to do. But Win32k does have
>> that kind of math for drawing so.... We can simplify it, rewrite it
>> and so on~ a side note.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or... get Wine's GUI running to see what graphic improvements appear, and
>> what graphics are still fucked in the same way, so you can remove that part
>> from the equation (meaning the problem is the driver or kernel or some other
>> DLL). <--- I hope so
>> Best regards,
>> Alex Ionescu
>>
>>
>>
>> More I think about it, if it does compile, it will not work, ntoskrnl
>> needs win32k so how to overcome this? Need to rewrite the kernel? That
>> is a no. Win32k process and threading issues and kernel callbacks so,
>> more, no. Someone could do the same with Xp or W7U, rewrite win32k to
>> support wine, write the callbacks make it interface as it should,
>> basically making win32k into win32kX11.... Graphic driver issues,,, so
>> the assumed response is no, why do all that when you can use the same
>> time writing it the right way. or Keep win32k, rewrite wine server and
>> winex11.drv to support NtGdi/NtUser calls...... Basically ending up
>> where you started off since over 80% of our win32k is wine code from
>> the start. Adapted modified and simplified to interface with drivers
>> and kernel.
>>
>> Look at it as a research project. We will answer these questions soon....
>> James
>>
>> PS newbies,
>> FYI: AdvApi, *Gdi, Kernel, Ntdll and *User are the "core 5" dlls that
>> have direct contact with kernel space.
>> * Split in two parts one "win32k" kernel space and the other user
>> space counter parts and uses data packets "known as shared data"
>> outside the API to transfer data from kernel space to user space and
>> back from user space to kernel space.
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