[ros-dev] when will I return Magnus Olsen aka GreatLord

Timo Kreuzer timo.kreuzer at web.de
Wed Jun 18 21:54:06 CEST 2008


I also respect Magnus, as person, and as a friend.
And I'm not gonna keep my mouth shut and let this go on, without telling 
my opinion.

Aleksey Bragin wrote:
> For some strange reason, he accepted that as lowering his status 
> (which I didn't intend to do, and in fact it's quite hard to harm 
> someone's "status").
Strange reason? Oh, really?
There has been a lot of talk about more professional development and 
keeping trunk stable etc....
But after all this is still an open source project. Everyone does the 
coding for fun. Take the fun away and the coder will stop coding. Taking 
away commit access to trunk is like spitting directly into the 
developer's face. Don't expect any other reaction as Magnus'. If I were 
in his situation, I'd be pissed, too.

Let' talk about spelling... This is ridiculous. Wrong spelling in 
comments doesn't harm anyone. If you don't like it you can fix it 
afterwards, but there's really no need to review a patch to fix the 
comment spelling.

And about Magnus breaking trunk...  I remember times when trunk was 
broken all the time again and again. I really do not see Magnus as being 
the one who broke it all the time. It was ntoskrnl stuff mostly. Noone 
ever thought about making Alex only commit to a branch. Well, you have 
to break an egg to make an omlett.

And now that ntoskrnl is quite stable you start getting pissed off by 
small regressions.. Or well, no, you got pissed off by one regression 
Magnus has caused, because he wasted your time. There have actually been 
a lot more regressions introduced recently:
- Ownerdrawn menus (janderwald)
- ntuser class changes (gbrunmar)
- solitaire colors (tkreuzer)
- broken download (pschweitzer)
- crt changes (cfinck/encoded)
Just to name a few. All of them being as bad or worse and being in trunk 
for a much longer time and probably wasting a lot more people's time 
finding the guilty revisions / fixing it.

Sorry, if I now sound pissed, too. I am. Because this sucks.
I don't like where this is going. I don't like the idea of 1st and 
second class devs and being reviewed.
What's next? Supervisors and group leaders, assigned tasks with 
deadlines and monthly reports and whatever?

You want a stable trunk - great! The question is how much are you 
willing to pay. Is loosing one of the old devs really in the budget?

Please rethink.
Thanks,
Timo



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