[ros-dev] Re: [Freedce-devel] pthread_clear_exit_np()

Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle at yahoo.fr
Wed Apr 26 01:11:59 CEST 2006


why ?
--- Alex Ionescu <ionucu at videotron.ca> a écrit :

> Can you please stop CCing ROS in these threads?
> 
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
> 
> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> > christoph, christoph, why are you trying to insult someone who is
> > looking to further the long-term aims and goals of free software,
> > by putting people in touch on perceived unrelated projects and
> > explaining to them the relevance?
> > 
> > you have a specific area of expertise (according to your 2005
> > ukuug bio) - kernel development.
> > 
> > i would welcome an opportunity for you to explain why my life,
> > which happens to be quite poignantly sad and unfulfilling in
> > many ways, has any relevance to the discussion at hand - and,
> > also, if you could possibly elaborate on why i am "beeeing an asshole"
> > likewise has any relevance.
> > 
> > 
> > also: i would strongly advise you to consider objectively what
> > i am trying to do - and forget what you do not know about me
> > [you know nothing about me].
> > 
> > forget that i am involved in this discussion, because it is
> > clearly affecting your (and evidently other people's) objective
> > judgement.
> > 
> > 
> > freedce is an important and under-recognised project that can
> > save literally man-decades of development time currently
> > being wasted by key free software projects, and lack of recognition
> > for it is also stopping several interoperability projects from even
> > _happening_.
> > 
> > you want to know how many incompatible free software
> > implementations there are of MSRPC around?  i count FOUR,
> > all written in c.
> > 
> > EACH of those projects has had at least two full-time members working on
> > them for AT LEAST three years, and each of those projects will require
> > those full-time members to continue working on those incompatible and
> > fundamentally non-interoperable development environments for another
> > three to five years, to make them useful - as development environments,
> > rather than to "fill one project's needs".
> > 
> > [whereas, if one of the fat cat free software "supporting"
> >  companies would actually get off their backsides and fund
> >  freedce, it would save everybody several decades worth of money]
> > 
> > 
> > you see - until such time as those non-interoperable MSRPC
> > projects are completed, microsoft still dominates the market.
> > 
> > 
> > MSRPC is the key infrastructure which binds everything together in the
> > microsoft world: it's what the European Union is trying to get out of
> > microsoft in the anti-trust case: information on how they use MSRPC;
> > how they do their authentication; the IDL files; specifications on the
> > nt domain services; etc. etc.
> > 
> > you indicated in an earlier email that (please correct me if my
> > impressions are wrong) that freedce is archaic and therefore irrelevant.
> > 
> > nothing could be further from the truth, and your distaste
> > for freedce is very short-sighted.
> > 
> > mark, from ibm: you should be advocating to ibm's free software
> > departments to back freedce and to KEEP the employees who worked
> > on DCE 3.0 and move them to freedce and MSRPC interoperability.
> > 
> > get some of that multi-hundred-million-dollar free software
> > advertising budget and put a fractional percentage of it
> > behind freedce.
> > 
> > you don't have to _like_ freedce.
> > 
> > you don't have to like its history.
> > 
> > you don't have to like that it is me that is advocating its use.
> > 
> > but don't you _dare_ insult me and think it doesn't have any effect.
> > 
> > so.  i look forward to receiving an apology from you - not
> > for my benefit, but because it will mean that you are willing to
> > demonstrate to the hundreds of people to whom your message has been
> > distributed, and to the thousands of people who will encounter it
> > in the future, that you can be trusted to make objective and
> > important decisions.
> > 
> > and that you don't deliberately go out of your way to
> > belittle and bully other people.
> > 
> > if you are unable to apologise, then you demonstrate, to me and
> > to others, that you do not deserve any position of responsibility.
> > 
> > am i making myself clear?
> > 
> > l.
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:22:16PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > 
> >>luke, please get a life and stop beeing an asshole, thanks.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
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Kind regards,
Sylvain Petreolle (aka Usurp)
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